The physical connection is not the problem.

Every new (B&O) speaker/sound system has some kind of sound processing going on.
With the ‘common’ Beolabs the Theatre knows about the characteristics of each speaker - not so with systems like Level etc.

My guess is, that we will have to wait for a new connection via Mozart in order to have a proper integration with speaker roles etc.
The interesting question thereafter however, will be if we will be able to mix and match speakers connected with Powerlink, WiSA and a new Mozart-based connection on the Theatre.

MM

Millemissen, I believe you are right, yet what surprises me is that B&O troubles itself by developing a system for Beosound Theatre that can accept an extended range of older Beolab speakers (And some ultra-expensive new ones). Yet, they neglect to ensure compatibility with their three most recent speakers (Balance, Level, and Emerge).

If that relates to an inherent shortcoming in Mozart, then B &O must have invested in the wrong technology, as versatility is why B & O became popular in the first place, and their customers expect the functionality.

It must also be true that B&O must have been losing in sales, not being able to offer reasonably priced speakers from the day Theater was introduced and will continue to do so until they either solve the compatibility problem with their current line of Mozart speakers or introduce a new range of compatible speakers. Even then, B&O will continue losing in the form of disappointed owners of Mozart-based speakers.

I, for one, acquired a pair of Levels and a Pair of Emerges and will not buy another B&O product until they fix the mess they created with their Mozart system.

It may be reasonable to suggest that B & O made a terrible mistake, which hurts as we all love or used to love B & O products.

Sia43 wrote I, for one, acquired a pair of Levels and a Pair of Emerges and will not buy another B&O product until they fix the mess they created with their Mozart system. ———

• I see no mess there!

They never promised anything regarding use of Mozart based speakers with the Theatre as you both your. Be happy, if - and when - they come up with such a solution. B&O is a small company, where things takes time…..you probably knew that when buting. MM

Sure, they never promised that, yet versatility is what their brand is about, and a majority of discussion on this site is about how people try to connect and integrate their devices into a seamless system.

As many would agree, the newest line of Mozart-based speakers is a significant deviation from B&O tradition, and the question is why B&O would take that avenue. This divergence hurts the brand and customers, and it would be better if they could take their time and develop functional devices rather than offer half-ready ones with inherent problems.

Which person would you hire, a student with some ideas about the job or a person who knows the job? And, wouldn't it be even more important for a small company that is offering high-end products to make sure its offerings are functional?

I stated this before but there are different layers of the B&O onion:-

1. All new B&O loudspeakers I believe will be dual purpose. i.e. a speaker and a communicator for music sources.
2. This means they will be more expensive than a straight Beolab of old but modestly cheaper than traditional Source + speaker setup.
3. There are technical problems of mixing WISA and WiFi (and bluetooth I guess) in small speakers because of the separation required by the respective aerial/antennae for each system.
4. I believe there are a number of new Beolabs coming to open-up the Atmos capabilities of the Theatre.
5. I would imagine that is going to be quite expensive (3 pairs or 6 units if each is considered like a BS Balance in different form-factor) i.e. £18-20k? where only the transducer side is required.
6. As you said, mozart is a bit of a mess because in my mind....like my point 1 above, it is trying to be all things to all people, it is trying to incorporate AES and other products into the control/integration umbrella, add-in complicated speakers with source/source control and it gets expensive, complicated and delayed in product release.

But even before the Mozart days, Beovisions could use Beolabs speakers in a surround setup, but could not use the Beoplay/Beosound speaker systems.

So there has always been a separation of which part of the speaker range one could use for a surround setup.

This is not new.

 

Sandyb,

I think the flip on that (and Im not 100% certain of consistency), is machines like the original Beosound 1, The Beosound Century etc...were cut-down products for those who could not afford the B&O separates range of Source(s) plus beolabs.

Over the years, all the Sources have disappeared (except TVs), lower-end Beolabs have disappeared and there is a deluge of BeoPlay (Bluetooth?) and one-box Beosounds without interconnectivity.

We now have a Flagship product which has been purposely designed to accept Beolabs but there is nothing in the current range suitable for surrounds (certainly heights) and anything new, will almost certainly be a BS Balance-type product with that internal jumper crossed-over to "integrate mode".

Im certainly simplifying matters by stating "how difficult could it be to integrate a RJ45 powerlink and kill all the electronics apart from the ICE/Soundboard" and use as a dumb Beolab?

 

 

The problem I think with Mozart speakers to be used as rear/surround speakers is that you will run into problems when you don’t have a super stable and capable (wifi) network.
There’s too many people that have mediocre networks, or, these networks become mediocre when you add wifi surround speakers.
So developing something stable will take a while

B&O has to add powerlink to overcome this.
But people want generally everything wireless. Except me ;-)

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The problem I think with Mozart speakers to be used as rear/surround speakers is that you will run into problems when you don’t have a super stable and capable (wifi) network. There’s too many people that have mediocre networks, or, these networks become mediocre when you add wifi surround speakers. So developing something stable will take a while B&O has to add powerlink to overcome this. But people want generally everything wireless. Except me ?

That's not a real" problem, plenty of companies are already doing that. Denon, Sonos, Beosound...   Yes, obviously if your Wi-Fi network is shit that will reflect on the surround set-up.