MM,

THANK YOU

Wow-- I wish you were in London and I could buy you an adult drink and chat!  This is amazing and I am learning so much!

So if you can bear with me (or if you prefer to do via email, let me know and I can send you my email address), I will try to summarize and soon  try to make a draft wiring drawing:

1. BL5 will ONLY be used with BS9000 in my "Great room" and I will also stream to this room via Bluesound, WIIM or similar.  Powerlink cables from BL5 and BS9000 (to play CD's).  But I am unclear what cable would be used for the network (to stream the NAS library)? Can this be from an Ethernet port which the house will have throughout? If there was a way to go from Ethernet port on LAN to speakers that would be so nice and simple??

2. Family room will have BL9 as well as BeoCenter 2 (using PowerLink cable ) to play local CD's there but wondering if I can integrate with TV sound to independently operate with ONLY TV OR CD?  See image below, I currently use this BO device to integrate BL3 (which might be plenty for TV room anyway)-- it works fine as well with single remote. OR could I use this BO device with BL9 speakers and a) use BL9 for TV and b) use BL9  stream from NAS network and c) play CD via BeoCenter2?  Does this need then PowerLink cables from BeoCenter 2 and each speaker and then a different cable for BL9 to tv? I am fuzzy if this can be combined or ONLY have say BL9 to play TV and not also linked to NAS and BC2?

3. I might have already asked this question but can I use the same NAS streaming network and also link various Sonos speakers that I have in smaller rooms, terrace etc?  The house will obviously have a strong mesh wifi .

Sorry for all the questions, but once I get the "picture" I will try to draw it out and ask you to take a look and confirm with Steve (Heavenly Cables) that I am planning is doable in the length of cable required etc.

Many thanks as always,

Ed

Re question 1 - if, as MM says (and I dont have 5s myself), you can only connect 1 device to BL5, you would need to connect the BS9000 to the BL5s in the normal way to get your CD playback, and then connect your streaming transport (Blusound, Wiim etc) to the BS9000.

Check with Steve what cable you need - but you'd need an idea of what streaming box you are going to use.  Some streaming boxes will output both digital from one output, but can also output analogue (if the streaming box has its own internal DAC), from a different output.  My guess is that it should be possible for the streaming box, when it wakes up to stream, will activate the BS9000 and BL5s - again check this with Steve I'd suggest.

Again, I wouldn't lose sight of your main goal - there may well be all B&O solutions to both rooms, but you'd need to be confident / happy in using the B&O app to play your NAS music, though I'd be surprised given how rudimentary / skeletal the experience is.

As for room 2, I'll leave others to opine on that.

Otherwise, when it comes to multi-room music, if you get the same streaming box for each room, that may well be sufficient, as (for example) the Blusound app will be able to multi-room including any room where it sees a Blusound box (similar to Sonos).

Anyway, I do think (of you havent decided already) you need to decide on what and how you want to control your NAS library (remember, the NAS library can sit hidden away, but you streaming box will see it, fold in its contents, and act as the "local to each room" conduit).

@Hockey44

1:
It is actually pretty simple.
The 9000 is set up as normal and the streamer is connected to the A.Aux input there using the analog output of the streamer - most streamers have analog outputs.
You’l need an adapter cable for that - probably a male L/R RCA to a male 5 pin DIN.

The A.Aux on the 9000 must be activated/turned on using the Beo4 - the music must be choosen and controlled via an app (according to the streamer) - the volume control is best done with the Beo4/the 9000.

You must connect the streamer to your home network (where your NAS also is connected).
This can - with most streamers - be done either wireless or using a network cable.
I’d prefer a wired connection, if possible.
The streamer must be setup according to the user guide.

Enjoy CD’s or streamed music from the speakers/the 5’s ?

Note!
You can not connect directly to the speakers/the BL5 with a network cable!

2:
Since it seems that there is no need for connecting both B&O systems (using a ML cable), I’d suggest running these independently and add another streamer to the BC2 just like with the 9000.
Both setups can then be used in similar ways - which might be important to other family member….what they do in one room is also how you do it in the other.

As I understand it, you already have (and use) a B&O Connection Hub - the socalled S8 hub.
Probably with a tv now and the BL3’s (?).

With this hub you have different options - see this picture:

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This means that you can connect different audio sources there (only one will play, the other must be turnded off).

You could use the optical in for the sound from a 3rd party tv (that is maybe what you do now).
And use the Powerlink input for the BC2.
In this case there would be no speakers connected to the BC2 itself, but to the hub….these could be the 5’s.
This way you’d have sound from CD, streaming device and tv using the same pair of speakers.
Enjoy ?

The (spare pair of) BL3’s could be used as additional speakers somewhere in the big room, if needed.
However, you might want to use the BC2 and the tv/hub setup indipendently.
In that case connect the 9’s to the BC2 and the 3’s to the hub (or vice versa).
It all depends on your needs, your use habits.

3:
Yes, you can access what you have on your NAS with the Sonos devices.
Please read 

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i am building a new home with polished concrete floors and want to cable in the floor.

Have you considered a strategy where you install conduits? You then run whatever cable that you want inside the conduit. This would allow you to future proof" your system as switching to a new technology would be as easy as pulling out the old cabling and installing the new. I've not done this for concrete floors, but a few of my friends have done something similar where a conduit is run between the basement and the attic of a two story house. Glitch  

Thank you again for this-- yes absolutely I will place conduit tubes so we can pull wires to the appropriate place (and near a power source).  The hard part is actually trying to anticipate in a 'new house with a very big room'-- what is the "final" position of the BL5 and BS9000.  I am loath to place PowerPoints in the floor (as they are ugly) but given large glass around 2 walls not much choice.  But I do need to get it correct first time.

MM -- did I understand correctly that I can ONLY listen to the BL5 IF the BS9000 is turned on? Another words, it is not possible to stream music to the BL5 directly from the NAS.  If that is true, does this mean you need to use the BO remote and select "aux" each time and ad just volume from BO remote and then use the APP to select music?  This was one of the 'challenges' I had with the Moment-- when I could find the DNLA, I needed to use the BO remote to adjust volume and the Moment to select music (i.e. 2 step and 2 devices).  Or is there a better 1-step way to listen to streamed (NAS- DNLA) or Spotify??

When I lived in Geneva we had a BO tv and I had the BL5 and BL3 all working with the TV-- amazing!!  But BL3 are pretty remarkable for just TV.  I think having BL9 and BL3 in a smaller TV /family room would be overkill.  I am thinking about this and would welcome your input:

1. I will have a studio/ workshop on lower ground floor.  I was trying to see if the BL3 could be placed there (to keep me sane...hah).  However then this would be some length from my 'server /services' room (also on lower ground).  Would it be more sensible to simply use Sonos speakers downstairs on a mesh wifi?  Of course the BL3 sound 100x better.

Sorry for all the questions-- once I am able to digest all of your excellent input, I will attempt to make a simple drawing and post for your input if I "got it" correct.

Kind regards and many thanks to all.... I wish I could buy you a cold Danish Faxe Fadoel!

Yes, you will always have to turn on the 9000/push the A.Aux, before you hear what you have selected on the streamer.
The 9000/Aux does not have auto sense like the newer B&O devices have (called Line-in there).
There is no better way, when you are using the BS9000 (or the BC2 for that matter)!

 

The BL3’s should be fine in a smaller room.
However, if you’d have a B&O tv, it would make sense to have both sets connected, since the B&O tv can handle multichannel sources (and therefore multiple speakers).

If you have one of these sets in the studio, you will also need something (a streamer and/or a B&O audio device) to connect these to.
Hard to say how your network options are there…..but running a network cable to the studio should solve that.
And whether you’l need the B&O speakers or a simple Sonos solution in that room, only you can know.
Please consider that it is possible to connect either the 3’s or 9’s to a Sonos Port (you might need adapter cables for that)…….if you’d prefer the Sonos way of doing things.

MM

A fair few people have reported that B&O dealers are offering 15K trade in on BL5s for BL50s.

Obviously completely ignore this if you'd never consider this (Bl50s may not be your thing etc). But they are clearly the more modern high end BL, with lots of simultaneous connection options and will allow you to do what you want cleanly.

I have 50s - connected to both my TV with powerlink, and separately to my streamer / DAC.   So in the case of music, I just pick some music and the 50s just wake up / start playing.  You can set input priorities for the 50s in the app   But obviously, ignore if this is not appropriate.

** the other advantage is that, because of where the BL50s cabe connection panel is, you can have the cable outlet pop up essentially underneath the BL50. Thats what I did when my apartment was renovated - and both 50s appear to be cable free.

Anyway, apologies if this is unhelpful.

Thank you for the idea of the BL50-- I had not heard of any such offers, but have not been hunting either here in London.

My architect is asking the diameter of the conduit tube to allow "all possibilities" to pass cables through that might have "large ends"-- would 50mm diameter (2") be enough?

Many thanks,

Ed

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Sweet no cables!They certainly look nice.  But no on the cards for me... Where is the power cable?  Many thanks for image.