Mine!! 😂

Being more sensible, I would always take the 4000 with a MMC20CL cartridge. The weight of the platter helps and I prefer the sound of the 20 series cartridges.

I would have a 1700 radial deck over either of the other two mentioned. The other choice would obviously be an 8002 or 8000, but I would still take the 4000.

I have 2 Beogram 1700 both with working MMC20EN, paid roughly a combined $160 for both and that includes the shipping. I also own a Beogram 3000 and 3300 with MMC4 and MMC5. Paid a hell of a lot more for those two.

Now when it comes to quality of build and sound the el cheapo 1700 makes the more coveted and expensive 3000 look like a Kenner Close and Play. It isnt even close really. The Beogram 1700 is a simple, clean and well built deck. They match up well with my BM4000 2000 2400 1600 and BC1600 quite nicely. I  wonder if I couldnt convert the RCA to a DIN.  The Beogram 3000/3300 family of tangential decks look nice on the outside but in reality are a bit flimsy.

I see the MMC20EN cartridges alone sell for almost as much as my two 1700's  or put another way I have seen bashed up Beogram 4000 decks with no cartridge go for 200 bucks and better. The unpopular Beogram 1700's are a great bargain.

Just because the product is unpopular or uninteresting doesnt mean it is bad. 

BTW ... I got turned on to the Beogram 1700 reading the review at Beocentral.

I agree with you - for someone who wants to listen to vinyl, the 1700 is a real treat and very well priced. Also very little to go wrong!

I have had virtually all the tangential tracking models, 4000, 4002, 4004, 8000, 8002, 5500, The 5500 is not well built but worked fine until I sold it. The 8000 and 8002 are nice machines, datalink remote is nice with MCP 5500. The 4002/4004 is very well built and somewhat easy to service, the 4000 is also wonderful, but it is truly a devil when it comes to servicing...

In my opinion, the 4002/4004 is the best, because it has the most beautiful design and probably the Beograms that are most likely to survive another 35 years of normal use.

-Søren

Out of curiosity, are the older series cartridges (e.g. MMC20CL) less prone to suspension failure (rubber drying out) than the newer MMC1-5 series?

I have seen more duff 1-5s than 20s myself but I have noticed that the 20 series and the X000 series seem to harden with age. The contact line cartridges loose the ability to track CD4 records. They still work fine in stereo though.

Søren Hammer wrote:

In my opinion, the 4002/4004 is the best, because it has the most beautiful design and probably the Beograms that are most likely to survive another 35 years of normal use.

;-) i hope that my beogram 4002 run another 35 years...

i had a beogram 4500 and a 5500 incl. mmc2 but i sold both. they've not that build quality compared to the legendary beogram 4000 series and i prefer also the sound of my mmc20cl pickup.

the beogram 4000 is in my opinion the perfect b&o turntable... legendary in design but maybe a bit over-engineered. the successor beogram 4002 and 6000 are also well build (no plastic) and the sound quality is really nice. all three are in the permanent collection of the museum of modern art in new york. they're truth design icons and maybe the key projects from jacob jensen for b&o.

http://www.stylepark.com/en/news/the-liberation-of-the-box-jacob-jensen-and-bang-und-olufsen-design/279932

peters beogram 3000 based on a thorens td124 is real studio stuff (made in switzerland/denmark) but personally i prefer the styling from the beogram 400x series.

it would be interesting to compare the beogram 3000 and the beogram 4000/4002 soundwise, unfortunally i've got only a beogram 4002... maybe peter is in the mood?

best regards

dario

I have both up and running. Clearly one of the major differences will be the cartridge which means direct comparison of the actual deck is tricky, and the arm on my 3000 is the 12" variant, which also makes a difference. However the over riding difference is the weight of the bass with the 3000 which is much deeper than the 4000. I think some of this must be down to the record support which is far superior on the 3000.