He did do sapphire cantilevers for the MMC2 but I am less sure about the 20CL. He can offer a contact line stylus on an aluminium cantilever or a Shibata stylus.

Soundsmith do a contact line stylus on a ruby cantilever and the innards use more modern magnetic materials.

Peter wrote:

He did do sapphire cantilevers for the MMC2 but I am less sure about the 20CL. He can offer a contact line stylus on an aluminium cantilever or a Shibata stylus.

Soundsmith do a contact line stylus on a ruby cantilever and the innards use more modern magnetic materials.

Axel repairs all my MMC2's and MMC20CL's with contact line diamonds on sapphire cantilevers. You only have to ask him to repair anything to the spec you require and he will do it.

Hi graham

how do they sound? As good as the original CL?

drew

Andrew wrote:

Hi graham

how do they sound? As good as the original CL?

drew

I couldn't tell the difference, so I sold the Axel refurb 20CL to another Beoworlder. He is delighted with it. Since I stopped selling 4000/4002/6000 turntables some months ago my main business with Axel has been MMC4/2 types.

In my own BG6000 Quad, I use a NOS 20CL that I bought as part of a batch of 6, from a retired B&O dealer, some time ago.

So I purchased the one I was watching on eBay.

Collected it this evening, gave it a bit of a clean. Set tracking weight and it's sounding fantastic on the BG6000 quad. Apparently it's done well under 100 hours and not used for many years.

Compared to my rebuild the upper end is very smooth. The new CL it's a little more relaxed in the top end and not as 'in your face' as my rebuild which almost seems to extract more detail on some pressings that the CL does, however on many albums I notice the CL just shines a bit more.

very happy with my purchase!

Very happy for you Drew! Excellent bargain then 🙂

Somwhere, I have an article written about the 20CL. They actually showed the frequency response of the cl at 15 degrees C and then at 20 degrees C. The higher temperature produced a better top end response and this effect was reproducible. I used to play mine with a light shining onto the cartridge at close range and it did honestly make a difference. Luckily time has stopped me hearing these frequencies but I would be fascinated to hear if the younger members can still notice the difference! (I am afraid that rules you out Graham!) 😁

The MMC6000 did not seem to have the same effect - I had thought it must have been the suspension but would be happy for any other theories raised.

Hi Peter

I will have a look around, I know with the lid closed on the BG6000, after a few discs it is quite warm inside so I think that will probably get me to where I need to be :)

Regards

Andrew

Hi everyone. As a follow up Axel informs me he doesn't have the sapphire cantilever and recommends the boron or aluminium as a replacement. 

Regards

andrew