There’s a scary thought. I am bad enough with pets.

Jeff -

I'm considering sending a CD-50 to Martin for repairs.  I live in the U.S. (New York State).  What carrier did you use?  Was it outrageously expensive?

Thanks,

John

If it's well packed you have nothing to worry about.

Danish customs are more into drug checking with dogs and making sure that anything with a value on them get's to pay import taxes. They go by random check and sometimes they don't touch anything at all. When it's outside EU it's import tax and drugs but it depends on the country. China is mostly fake stuff and east europe is imigrants.

Anyway when Dillen get's it you have the best B&O service for your time, money and care.

Dillen must have send a pm by now?

Thanks, Friedmett. 😂 

I now have Jeff's Beogram 4000 on the bench;

The complaint was that it would hover the tonearm over the record for ages
but when lowered it only took a few seconds before the fuse blew.

The fuses in question are the mains fuses and in this Beogram they
are 250mA slow burning as per the service manual.

The service manual also states the max current consumption of the Beogram as 40 Watts.
My B&O RT12 variac allows me to not only set my own mains voltage (for this
Beogram 110-115V) but also to read the actual mains current draw of the unit at test.
Ohms law put into action (effect equals voltage times current)
gives us (40/110) = 0,363A (363 mA) so that's what we will be expecting to see.

The readout of the actual values are 240mA when the tonearm is hovering
and almost 360mA when the tonearm is down (due to the holding solenoid).

So no actual overloads anywhere but clearly, this is more than most 250mA fuses will allow.
In other words, we are working outside the fuses factory specs and tolerances.

On 220V mains, the current would be about half of that (apprx 180mA) which makes
the 250mA fuses suitable but on 110V the fuses are too small and should really
be replaced by 500mA types.
As far as I can tell, it's not mentioned in the service manual. Quite a mistake.

Following this, Jeff told me that this Beogram was actually imported
from a 220V territory and obviously noone thought about replacing the fuses, not
even the previous repairer in the states.

A very nice deck indeed.
No other electronic faults were found but it will be given a checkup of
the basic functions and adjustments, a fresh pair of 500mA slow burning
fuses and the finding of a couple of marginal capacitors never comes as a surprise.

Martin

Sorry to rub it in, but

http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/permalink/112549/112093/ShowThread.aspx#112093

Anyway, I hope the Beogram is now in good order and will return safely in better condition than it left!

Yes.

We were quite sure that the fuses were correct and the currents mentioned late at the first page of the thread was that of the solenoid, not that of the Beogram as a whole.

Still, we were close. 😂

Martin

Hi John,

I checked will virtually all the carriers and was horrified at their responses. The Beogram 4000 with packing material is quite heavy and I HAD to have the 4000 double-boxed.

As such FedExpress was insanely expensive $500-$600 each way. DHL was no better. UPS was less, but still pretty scary. I eventually settled on Canada Post, not my favorite carrier, but the cost was US$274.89. (One way)

So yes, it was outrageously expensive. At least you are in New York State…. whereas I live on Vancouver Island.

Good luck with you CD-50 repair. Martin definitely is the place to have it repaired!

Jeff

The faster you want it to get here and insured the more expensive it is.

It's good to hear its in the safe hands of Dillen in one piece!

A roundtrip would be a great idea if you got the time and money. Its not everday you come to Denmark? How fast Dillen can fix it is the question as the faults has to be located and the unit properly tested. Skip on this and you might be in for a surprice.

My Beomaster 8000 were done and I had the option to get it 2 days later only to find it still blowing fuses when I came home. It had played and worked great those 2 days but the net transformer had gone bad. It got changed and it stills plays perfectly.