If i buy this player as it is used and scratched, is it possible to replace my fitting arm with the used one i will buy ?
It is probably ok. with my SMMC20CL+ i guess, yes ?
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BEOGRAM 1700 problem with SMMC20 Soundsmith cartridge !
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Yes Maggie, if the arm accepts a MMC20S then it will also accept your Soundsmith SMM20CL: cartridge. I have just read this thread and must say you have been VERY unlucky 🙁
But you will really love your SoundSmith cartridge - they are exceptionally good.
As an afterthought - could this (Maggies beogram1700) be a converted voltage USA model BG1700 as I'm fairly sure the toneram for the USA BG1700 market took the MMC1 - 5 range as opposed to the European version with the MMC20** tonearm. Or posssibly B&O produced later models @ 1983 with this - either way I'm fairly sure I once owned/or have seen one of these with a MMC1-5 tonearm😂
Chris.
Thank you !
tonight soundsmith offered to replace the cartridge with a SMMC1 and refund.
Which do you think is the best solution, mine or soundsmith's ?
To send to soundsmith the cartridge is waste of my time. To receive the new one, i probably pay some money, not much they say cause i have the import papers from my first one...
But i have already over 750 euros for this whole story :(
Get the SMMC1. If your turntable is in good condition, that would be the most sensible way to go. Don't even think of changing the arm as it will not be quite that simple!
If youi want to keep the SMMC20CL+, buy a Beogram 4002 or similar.
My B&O Icons:
The cost to return the SMMC20CL+ and get the cartidge you mention is too high., courier, taxes, etc.
It is cheaper to buy a used BG 1700 with an MMC 20 S cartridge with stylus
Could you publish a turntable photo?
SMMC20CL+ and get the cartidge you mention is too high., courier, taxes, etc.
It is cheaper to buy a used BG 1700 with an MMC 20 S cartridge with stylus
Not a big surprise! The BG1700 and MMC20S were the bottom of the B&O range. The SMMC20CL= is the very top of the SMMC20 range. The 20S may not be in good condition either. How much did the 20CL+ cost you? If unused, I might consider buying it from you. How about if I buy you a SMMC1 and you give me the CL+?
My B&O Icons:
The price for a Soundsmith pickup is high and adding the postage is where its crazy.
Soundsmith sends their packets insured. When customs see that you are being charged.
I got a MMC2 from them and it was actually send 3 times to Denmark. Customs could not send a reply to me with the tax/customs cost so they send the item back 2 times.
The 3rd time I instructed Soundsmith to send it without a value on it. That worked like a charm but of course risky. Anyway packed right it will arive.
That MMC2 still sounds wonderfull.
Not a big surprise! The BG1700 and MMC20S were the bottom of the B&O range. The SMMC20CL= is the very top of the SMMC20 range. The 20S may not be in good condition either. How much did the 20CL+ cost you? If unused, I might consider buying it from you. How about if I buy you a SMMC1 and you give me the CL+?
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I bought it $689.95USD and I paid UPS & customs taxes 250 euros !
How much will your SMMC1 cost me ? Is the sound same as my new cartridge's ?
I don't want to pay import taxes again and soundsmith found yesterday a way not to. they want back mine and will give me a new one SMMC1 and refund. The procedure will be if I send it by regular AIR MAIL, with the description "record player part, defective - being returned for repair". then can send me one that does fit. This will arrive without import duty - you also have the receipt that you can show that indicates that you already paid import duty.
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