Cheers for the Welcome chaps.

I have a couple of questions reg a couple of decks (1200 and 1203)... would starting a new thread be the done thing or is it ok to post here? It seems a good one hit resource it might be good to add to it?

ChrisG116 wrote:

Cheers for the Welcome chaps.

I have a couple of questions reg a couple of decks (1200 and 1203)... would starting a new thread be the done thing or is it ok to post here? It seems a good one hit resource it might be good to add to it?

The topic of this thread is Beogram 1200 repairs, so go ahead and ask.

Martin

Great stuff.

Ok, I will aim to get some pics uploaded too but here we go, and I will try not to waffle...

Deck 01, 1203, average condition:

All works fine, except for the pick up and return, if I force the arm round (not too hard) it engages and puts it back neatly but doesn't under normal use, as the needle runs out it skips back to the last 10 seconds of the song, then does the same, infinitely.

 

Deck 02, 1200, very good condition: 

I bought this after giving up on the 1203 and it was sold as "worked when stored". After working on it for hours it was all working apart from, again, the pick up and return mechanism! In this case though there were two very small clip like pieces of metal rattling about in the case- obviously part of said mechanism but I have no idea where they actually go- I'm assuming within the big white wheel somehow... I will get some pics of these...

 

I'm hoping for an easy fix, I have played with the weight on the 1203 and it makes a difference... with more weight on the arm the needle runs further... if I set it to sub 2 it doesn't make it to the end of the record, over 2 and it starts to run out before jumping back...

 

Over to you experts for thoughts and suggestions... I would love to get these turntables working perfectly again as they are works of art.

This may or may not help 

When I first bought my Beogram 1200 (allegedly new) it had the problem of the stylus being snatched- back just before finishing a record and before the stylus was lifted. The Beogram was returned to the dealer for repair, but came back with the same fault.

On lifting the platter you will find a number of shaped sliding brass floating pieces at the centre of the turntable. These determine when the arm should lift and move etc. In my case I found that a corner tip of one of these sliders had been bent over (maybe a factory fault!) causing the arm to be snatched back prematurely. So just take a close look at those sliders and make sure that none are bent and that they can all move freely.

Graham

Hi Graham,

Thanks for the reply. These sound like the exact bits that have become detached in my 1200! Don't suppose you have any pics of them in place?

 

I played with my 1203 more last night... it's very odd... I put a little more weight on it than it should have (3 as opposed to 2) and it now plays out, skips back about an inch, then lifts and returns! I know its not ideal but am I right in thinking the SP14 was designed to withstand that sort of movement? I heard some story of a sales man dragging the needle back and forth the record to demonstrate, once, in the 70's... (maybe a tall tale).

ChrisG116 wrote:

Hi Graham,

Thanks for the reply. These sound like the exact bits that have become detached in my 1200! Don't suppose you have any pics of them in place?

I'll take a look later today and see if it's possible to get any meaningful pictures.

Graham

No pictures I'm afraid.

Got the deck out, lifted the platter, but then found the three screws holding the disk below the platter were either seized or locked with something like loctite and I simply could not move them. I am not going to use force for fear of breaking something.

Does anyone else have pictures of the brass sliders? The manual tends to show all views from below and I can't see a view from the top showing the area in question.

Graham

Is this the area you mean? If not, try to be a bit more exact, and I'll see what I can do.

Menahem

 

Menahem Yachad wrote:

Is this the area you mean? If not, try to be a bit more exact, and I'll see what I can do.

Menahem

Thanks Menahem. That looks like the right area. Whether it answers the original question remains to be seen!

 

Graham

Hi Guys,

Thanks so much for taking the time ot get those pics.... sadly it doesn't show anything looking like the parts I mentioned.

I'll try and grab a pic of the pieces myself and see if anyone recognises them.

 

Also, anyone know of someone in London who might be able ot repair my turntables if I dont manage it?