Soundproof, have you found a way to turn on/off your b&o with your iphone? Wi-Fi -> IR? How can we do this?

How much does the MCL Gateway cost btw?

and does the link command need to be directed at the IR eye of a BeoLink Active? or can we have one IR transmitter sending all link commands to the same reciever?

chrisped wrote:

How much does the MCL Gateway cost btw?

£1800 !!! ouch....

chrisped wrote:

and does the link command need to be directed at the IR eye of a BeoLink Active? or can we have one IR transmitter sending all link commands to the same reciever?

I do not understand your question at all.

As a pointed out in my post in the General Forum (maybe that was the wrong place to post if i look at the view/reply ratio) i would like an iPhoneOS application to control B&O also. 

I think we would need some hardware to function as a "bridge" between wifi/IP and the masterlink network. The MLGateway might be an interesting option, maybe the lintronic box would be an option to. The iPhoneOS app would have to interface with one of those hardware pieces, and mimic a beoremote. Come to think of it, the app would not only be able to mimic a beoremote, but also be able to control other home automation stuff that these hardware boxes can control. That would be awesome!

Is there anybody on this forum (Phil? 😁 )that could write an iPhoneOS application to interface with one of those two pieces of hardware (MLGateway/lintronic)?

Kind Regards, Roy

PhilLondon wrote:

chrisped wrote:

How much does the MCL Gateway cost btw?

£1800 !!! ouch....

chrisped wrote:

and does the link command need to be directed at the IR eye of a BeoLink Active? or can we have one IR transmitter sending all link commands to the same reciever?

I do not understand your question at all.

I was probably not clear enough as the question was not related to the MCL gateway. But in a link room you have e.g. a Beolink Active with an IR eye and a couple of speakers of course. To get N.MUSIC in this room you use a e.g. Beo4 and press N.MUSIC towards the IR eye of the Beolink Active. Question: Can you initiate N.MUSIC in the link room using e.g. your Beo4/5 in your main room (Beo4/5 directed at your IR eye connected to your Beosystem 3)?

I am asking the question because if we "solve" the issue about Wi-Fi -> IR in order to turn on/off, etc do we need this magic box for each room? or would it be enough with one magic Wi-Fi -> IR box in e.g. the main room?

So from an iPhone app, that would connect to a single ML gateway via wifi, you could control every room, even if you're in a different room... and with 2 way communication ;-)

To answer RAGH/Roy's question, yes I can write iPhone apps (i do not have any on the store yet), but I find the ML Gateway too expensive to buy it myself. Also I find that the number of supported devices is too limited. It only supports the most recent TVs and hifis must be in option 0.

According to B&O there is already a way to control the setup with an iPhone app. From what I understand, the ML Gateway needs to be interfaced with a home automation system, and this home automation system has already an iPhone app.

PhilLondon wrote:

Ok, I do not know a Wifi > IR box. The ML Gateway however is connected to the ML bus and can in theory control all the devices in every room.

Right, but one of the fundamental challenges we face in the "ultimate setup" is how to control our b&o systems using an iPhone/iPad app, correct? And the b&o answer MCL Gateway is too expensive and also lacks in supported systems.

So we are back to the Wifi->InfraRed box, which would receive a command via Wi-Fi from our iPhone app and convert it to IR. I seem to remember an old thread on the forum with links to such a product, but I think it was a little bit expensive and difficult to obtain in Europe. Did this ever make it to Europe and have anyone actually tried it?

Or..

Since b&o is now converting the ML to cat7 would it be possible to interface that way? I suspect it would be still a closed network, and b&o would not support the ML traffic work over your home network. If indeed it needs cat7 (shielding is the reason or?) it would be cabled network anyways. However if a standard hub would act as the ML junction box in this Cat7 architecture one could imagine a mac/pc with an extra network card and cat7 cable to the hub. It might be possible to write a low level network app which could convert the app commands to ML commands over Cat7?? could this possibly work?

The only translator (WiFi-IR) I know of that's compatible with B&O is the one from irTrans.

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irTrans also offers gateways for network control.

Functions can be controlled using iRed2.

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To get Linkplayer to work through this, you'd need irTrans, but I believe you can do without iRed2?

This product doesn't emit B&O IR-frequencies - link

PhilLondon wrote:

Ok, I do not know a Wifi > IR box.

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And there’s the WiFi device supported by it:

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Hi,

Can you explain how you implemented it?

[Edit: sorry was to quick to reply, didnt read soundproof's message. See text below, i agree with what he said about a gateway solution. Maybe Michael from Lintronic could chime in]

I figure this device is a remote IR blaster the iPhone/iTouch connects to via WiFi/IP, and suppose its one-way only and you point the transmitter to one of the IR-eyes in your ML setup. So no feedback on the touchscreen whether your speaker in the linkroom is on/off and to what source its actually set.

Is this true? 

Do you know that if you add the rs-232 adapter to the IRtrans you can send (and recieve?) the IR commands over rs-232 to (for instance) a MLGateway or Lintronicbox, and thus have two-way feedback? I ask because this way the MLGateway/Lintronicbox do the IR-command to MLprotocol conversion instead of the IRtrans just pushing a IR-signal into the ML network.

Is two way communication for device-status even possible for ML? (in other words does the ML protocol just send IR commands to a linkdevice over the MLBus, or does the linkdevice send status-info back somehow?)

PS another way to implement an iPhone/iTouch, mentioned earlier as the reference B&O made about the already available iPhone remote, is that you could use Home Automation packages like CQC or Johnnynine's J9AE, which have iPhone client apps. Downside to me is that they are client/server based. The iPhone is only the client. A PC is the server, and this server would control an interface/converterbox like the MLGateway/Lintronic box. To many steps if you ask me, I'd rather have an iPhoneOS app that controls the converter directly.