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Piaf posted on Fri, May 12 2017 8:17 AM

I have found a pair of M75 speakers with stands on the BC mainland at a fair price. Supposedly they are in excellent cosmetic condition needing only the woofers refoamed.

I am attending the All British Car Meet at VanDusen Gardens in Vancouver next weekend  so if the M75 speakers are anything like my S75 speakers I would love to acquire them, making the $140 ferry ride all the more worth it. My spouse wants to see the car show, I want the speakers. Yes - thumbs up with luck, everyone wins!

So what is the difference in sound quality between the M75 and S75 speakers?

Jeff

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Piaf replied on Fri, May 12 2017 5:03 PM

With a memory fairly typical of a guy my age, I am sure I have posted this question at least once, if not twice. None the less, if the "deal" didn't work out, the responses tend to get dismissed, and "lost in time."

My real goal is a pair of either M100 speakers or better still MS150's however neither come up for sale often and shipping is prohibitively expensive.

But last night I spotted what appear to be very nice M75 speakers at a reasonable price.

I assume that the over-all sound quality is very similar to S75 speakers and if someone can either confirm this or explain the differences, I'd sure appreciate it.

Thanks!

Jeff

 

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Hi Jeff,

I haven't heard the M70 or M75 but I do have the M100.2 and S75 Beovox's. From what other Beoworld M70 and M75 owners report on them I think you can't go wrong by getting them...especially if the price is good and they have the stands.

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Peter replied on Sat, May 13 2017 10:11 PM

Different ball park - better controlled bass compared to S75s. The phase link unit suffers from foam rot and if not done, the capacitors will need changing. I kept M100s over MS150s. Buy them.

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Cooker replied on Sat, May 13 2017 11:58 PM

I have a pair of immaculate M75's, reformed and capacitor kit fitted. The highs and mids are exquisite, cannot fault. Gorgeous warm sounding speaker. Only issue if want to get really picky, is the bass isn't as perfect as the highs and mids. I guess that's what the M100 was designed for.  But the bass issue is really splitting hairs and only noticeable on passages of music you know should be slightly bassier.

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Piaf replied on Sun, May 14 2017 3:18 AM

sonavor:
I think you can't go wrong by getting them...especially if the price is good and they have the stands.

Hi John,

Thank you for the recommendation, I will take a look next weekend.

Supposedly the cosmetic condition is near flawless, the speakers come with cables, and stands..... and for $200.

IF these speakers look as good as the sellers says they are, I AM buying them.

As always, I really appreciate your advice!

Jeff

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Piaf replied on Sun, May 14 2017 3:22 AM

Cooker:
I have a pair of immaculate M75's, reformed and capacitor kit fitted. The highs and mids are exquisite, cannot fault. Gorgeous warm sounding speaker. Only issue if want to get really picky, is the bass isn't as perfect as the highs and mids. I guess that's what the M100 was designed for.  But the bass issue is really splitting hairs and only noticeable on passages of music you know should be slightly bassier.

Tiny criticism notwithstanding, your comments only make me want to buy these speakers all the MORE. Thank you!

Jeff

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Piaf replied on Sun, May 14 2017 3:42 AM

Peter:
Different ball park - better controlled bass compared to S75s. The phase link unit suffers from foam rot and if not done, the capacitors will need changing. I kept M100s over MS150s. Buy them.

Hello Peter,

Always GOOD to hear from you. A "Buy them" from you is quite a powerful enticement for me as I highly value your opinion.

I remember with considerable fondness your comment on S75 speakers, "They can make a lot of noise." Well sir, that they can as well as beautiful music.

What you are telling me is the M75 speaker is better than the S75 speaker..... case closed. As long as the seller was honest about the cosmetic condition, I will buy these speakers a week from today.

I know I need to have the woofers refoamed and if I need help with the phase link and caps I hope you and Martin will be here to guide me through that.

But first, I gotta nap them.

My sincere thanks to all for your comments and encouragement. Big Smile

Jeff

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Hi Jeff,

That is a great buy for sure if they are as advertised (and I hope they are). We'll wait for the pictures.

Regards,
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Piaf replied on Sun, May 14 2017 7:44 AM

Hello John,

If these M75 speakers are "as advertised" they will be a fantastic find. Photos WILL follow, I promise.

I asked all "the right" questions based on a friend's advice who is in the car business. (I don't advocate their tactics, but am ready to "learn" from them.)

So we'll see.

Thanks for your interest and your help! Yes - thumbs up

Jeff

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Peter replied on Sun, May 14 2017 7:56 AM

I thought the woofers on the M75 had a rubber surround. The M100 does. The M75 is a little bigger than the S75 and has a similar sized woofer - it is a long time since I have seen a pair but I am pretty sure the woofer has a bigger magnet and is a lot heavier. Martin will know!

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Piaf replied on Sun, May 14 2017 5:03 PM

Peter:

I thought the woofers on the M75 had a rubber surround. The M100 does. The M75 is a little bigger than the S75 and has a similar sized woofer - it is a long time since I have seen a pair but I am pretty sure the woofer has a bigger magnet and is a lot heavier. Martin will know!

Hi Peter,

To the best of my knowledge both M75 and S75 have 25cm woofers.

Jeff

 

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Piaf replied on Sun, May 14 2017 5:12 PM

Hi Peter,

The S75 is smaller and half the weight of the M75 standing 75cm compared to 59cm and 23kg as compared to 11kg.

Jeff

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Peter replied on Sun, May 14 2017 5:47 PM

They do but not the same one! You may be right in thinking the M75 has a foam surround though - the S75 and M100 don't. Will be interested to see!

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Piaf replied on Sun, May 14 2017 7:20 PM

I am quite sure the woofers are different as you spoke of the difference in bass control and the S75's don't need reforming.Should be interesting to see up close.  Now all I have to do is see if the seller shows up. With a week to go he can always sell them to someone else.

Jeff 

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