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Piaf replied on Mon, Aug 7 2017 3:59 AM

elephant:
Jeff, I am aware of the technique but like Dillon I am very frustrated.

Don't misunderstand, I SHARE your frustration, especially after taking the time to carefully craft a response.

Unless my response is a single sentence, I routinely copy it, and to date, 4 attempts is the worse. Usually it goes through on the second try. I shouldn't be this way, and I am sure it doesn't have to be.

And yes, I am going to copy this message.

Jeff

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Dillen replied on Mon, Aug 7 2017 11:32 AM

Of course I also copy/paste whenever I (try to) post here, have worked with computers since 1982, but still

find myself waiting one timeout after the other - for X times 30-40 seconds, f.e. 10x 40 seconds is 400 seconds (close to 7 minutes tied in front of the monitor - did it

work this time or must I try again?) for every post I want to make - just in attempt to help people I never met and/or

may not even know.

 

I have started emailing posters my suggestions etc. directly instead of posting here.

 

But this is all OT.

Go ahead and flash some more B&O.

- If you can.

 

Martin

Now also not correcting for the stupid double line spacing it has started to make.

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Weebyx replied on Mon, Aug 7 2017 11:54 AM

Dillen:

I have started emailing posters my suggestions etc. directly instead of posting here.

I understand totally, but it is such a shame that others do not get all the great suggestions and so on you are giving out :(

Hopefully these issues will get fixed. It has been over a week at least, since my last post has failed, so it is very strange why some people are experiencing lots of problems, and others almost none..

/Jacob

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Piaf replied on Mon, Aug 7 2017 4:56 PM

Dillen:

Of course I also copy/paste whenever I (try to) post here, have worked with computers since 1982, but still

find myself waiting one timeout after the other - for X times 30-40 seconds, f.e. 10x 40 seconds is 400 seconds (close to 7 minutes tied in front of the monitor - did it

work this time or must I try again?) for every post I want to make - just in attempt to help people I never met and/or

may not even know.

Hi Martin,

Just as a second suggestion, you can also compose your always helpful responses in "Word" them copy your work on to this site. If you compose using the BeoWorld site and copy your work, you are stuck until the site accepts it, whereas if you save it in "Word" (or similar program) you have it indefinitely. Also you aviod the very annoying double space the site offers.

I notice you started working with computers in 1982. Small world, I started in 1980 with a NCR Mini-Mainframe using IMOS-3. Yiks, do I feel dated!

Jeff

 

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Andrew replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 9:18 AM

Hi Jeff - I started in 1984 I think with anIBM4381 running Jes2 and CICS, that was replaced by a 3090 in a lead lined room! we also had DEC and HP - the HP was old then and you had to flick switches in a certain sequence to boot it up!

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Andrew:

Hi Jeff - I started in 1984 I think with anIBM4381 running Jes2 and CICS, that was replaced by a 3090 in a lead lined room! we also had DEC and HP - the HP was old then and you had to flick switches in a certain sequence to boot it up!

Lead lined room - wow

I wrote my first program (fortran) on an IBM 1620 ...in 1967 👴🏻

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Jeff replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 2:03 PM

First "modern" machine was in 1975, a DEC PDP-11, followed by an IBM 360/75 with a huge 7.5 megabytes of RAM! And yes, I'm old enough to have programed machines by setting the words using up/down toggle switches for 1s and 0s and hitting load to push the word into memory, then repeating. I think one of the beginnings of dumbing down people was when PCs got advanced enough you bought all your programs, and they removed even a BASIC interpreter off of all computers, so you not only didn't have to learn to program to do anything, you couldn't even play around with programming. Even if the mass of people weren't good programmers, they learned a bit about it and logic.

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Piaf replied on Tue, Aug 8 2017 5:42 PM

Andrew:
Hi Jeff - I started in 1984 I think with anIBM4381 running Jes2 and CICS, that was replaced by a 3090 in a lead lined room! we also had DEC and HP - the HP was old then and you had to flick switches in a certain sequence to boot it up!

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Hi Andrew,

I believe I have given you the wrong impression as I am not now, nor ever have been a computer programmer.

Instead; I was once in a very interesting position; being on the committee to choose a company computer. We talked with IBM, Burroughs, and NCR. (I still have the Parker pen with the Burroughs logo on it gifted me by the Burroughs salesman on my present computer desk.)

I digress, as I have a “cute” story you might find interesting; well hopefully.

The computer purchase was in every aspect a really big deal. We needed a specially designed room with incredible air-conditioning and electrical capacity. Staff had to be hired and trained for this totally new endeavor, and a department manager named.

This is where things get interesting. The person in change; how can I put this? Well let’s say she had less than a sunny personality….. also hyper, manic, and obsessive.

Months went by between the order and delivery dates and in all that time; training was a 9 to 5 affair.

When the “big day” finally arrived it was exciting, a major installation and all that went with it. I was truly interested in every aspect and went around asking questions of all the installation techs on “how” and “why” things were done.

 Now picture this, after spending a zillion dollars for this new computer system, peripheral terminals, and one enormous line printer, waiting months and months for delivery, the new head of this department was so stressed, so exhausted that she had to go home to lie down mid-day.

An opportunity like that would never come again. Keep in mind, I asked a LOT of questions, but I spread those questions around not wanting to over-stay my welcome with any one tech.

A brand new computer and I had it all to myself. First I had to insert the cassette drive to start-up the system. Then there was a security code which I had memorized, and the memory had to be partitioned.

I knew they were going to have practice sessions for an entire week, so it didn’t matter what info I put in the computer. I was a smart aleck kid handed “the keys to a new car,” and I got creative. I entered all sorts of inventory but when it came to “status” I put in things like “Stolen” and listed the new computer manager as the culprit. And I waited…..

The next day was the official first day of operation and every company official that would fit in the room was there. I honestly and to some extent innocently wanted to help and was brushed off VERY publically with, “You don’t know anything, you leave this to me.”

Really? Is that so? Now this woman was really on a tear, center stage, showing all she had learned about this new computer. Everyone had their eyes glued to this impromptu presentation leaving me unnoticed at a terminal.

This early NCR mini-mainframe could only handle one query at a time and I knew that….. so with everyone in the room watching for the first ever search demonstration, I fielded a search inquiry. The computer manager was SO excited, “And with one press of the button,” the anticipation was intoxicating…… “DENIGHED

How embarrassing. Repeated attempts produced the identical result: DENIGHED. Finally I couldn’t keep a straight face any longer and broke out in laughter. Every eye in the room turned to me, so I ended the query and the manager’s request produced the expected results.

About an hour later I hear the screams “JEFFREY” from across the hall…… I think the computer manager had found the “stolen” status.  I done good.

Of course this was a childish, immature, and even petty thing to have done… but there were so many reasons why this was “so called for,” that I believe Gandhi himself would have forgiven me.

In any case, I hope you found this missive amusing.

Jeff

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Jeff .... a similar story.

We were studying computer science at University.

There was a lecturer who we figured was incompetent.

So some students rigged the terminal in his lecture hall with a program that mimicked the operating system, but responded with false information and false error messages.

But the joke was a bit of a flop, because seemingly, the lecturer didn't notice anything was wrong with the responses and breezed through the lecture [:\'(]

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Piaf replied on Wed, Aug 9 2017 1:18 AM

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But the joke was a bit of a flop, because seemingly, the lecturer didn't notice anything was wrong with the responses and breezed through the lecture [:\'(]

Good one! Big Smile

Jeff

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BeoGreg replied on Wed, Aug 9 2017 4:05 PM
A1 in vacations in Corsica Santa Giulia.

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KMA replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 6:05 PM
In the past couple of years, I've "downsized" my B&O, waiting to see where the company is heading. It was really hard to let my BV11 go, but I was won over by OLED.

Now it's time to upsize again.

Eclipse will replace my LG OLED setup. The placement will also be different, from a media wall to the floor stand.

In the photos: Sitting room, bedroom, and the "LG media wall". Apple TV, Blu-ray and MacMini are hidden in a cabinet, controlled by LG's Universal Control (somewhat similar to PUC) with LG's MR700 remote.

PS. I wouldn't touch anything Android B&O with a 10 feet pole; hence the Eclipse is a game changer for me.

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BAND'OH! replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 10:36 PM

Hi KMA, very nice posts and really love your attention to detail to the overall design incorporated in your home with the various products. It seems we are thinking along similar lines as I too have been waiting some time for the right TV to come out that ticks many boxes from B&O and I am hoping the Eclipse is it. I am yet to decide how to display it and have looked at all the mounting possibilities. I am curious why you have decided to change from your very neat wall mount option to a floor stand? At first I thought your last picture was of the recently released Samsung frame TV! I see though that you are using a picture frame around the LG, which is neat and looks great, although the sound bar kind of gives it away a bit!!! How are you displaying the picture in the frame?

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Duels replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 11:17 PM
I believe the "picture frame" is just part of the picture on the tv screen. A very effective illusion.
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KMA replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 11:27 PM
BAND'OH!:

Hi KMA, very nice posts and really love your attention to detail to the overall design incorporated in your home with the various products. It seems we are thinking along similar lines as I too have been waiting some time for the right TV to come out that ticks many boxes from B&O and I am hoping the Eclipse is it. I am yet to decide how to display it and have looked at all the mounting possibilities. I am curious why you have decided to change from your very neat wall mount option to a floor stand? At first I thought your last picture was of the recently released Samsung frame TV! I see though that you are using a picture frame around the LG, which is neat and looks great, although the sound bar kind of gives it away a bit!!! How are you displaying the picture in the frame?

Hi,

Thanks for the compliments Smile

Actually there is no frame around the LG: the frame is a part of the image itself, from a picture show app called "OLED Gallery". It shows various art in different kind of frames.

The reason I'm going for the floor stand with the Eclipse is versatility of placement options around the room. Plus I've always loved the "magic" of the motorised floor stand. Also, with the stand, it will be easier to point the Eclipse's speakers to different listening positions. So it's about practicality & preference.

Thank goodness it's almost Wednesday Big Smile

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KMA replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 11:29 PM
Duels:

I believe the "picture frame" is just part of the picture on the tv screen. A very effective illusion.

You're correct.

And the frames do look very real.

KMA

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BAND'OH! replied on Mon, Aug 28 2017 11:39 PM

KMA:
Duels:

I believe the "picture frame" is just part of the picture on the tv screen. A very effective illusion.

You're correct.

And the frames do look very real.

VERY REAL! I completely bought into it at first sight! I like your reasoning for the floor stand, I'd like the B&O magic too and I am also drawn to the floor stand, but more so for hiding the Sky/Virgin box on the back with an STB bracket hopefully. Are there any tiny 4K players available yet that would also fit nicely on the back?

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KMA replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 12:13 AM
BAND'OH!:

VERY REAL! I completely bought into it at first sight! I like your reasoning for the floor stand, I'd like the B&O magic too and I am also drawn to the floor stand, but more so for hiding the Sky/Virgin box on the back with an STB bracket hopefully. Are there any tiny 4K players available yet that would also fit nicely on the back?

I haven't found a small UHD Blu-ray player yet, but I'm looking, too. My next 4K "player" will be the new AppleTV 4K box, which will probably launch on September 12.

KMA

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BAND'OH! replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 12:26 AM

Cool, I'll look out for that, thanks for the info. I have also just been googling and apparently there is a new Xbox One X console due for release in November so depending on size, that might be a 4K option. I am not a gamer but if its good enough for playing native 4K content then I might get it. 

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elephant replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 11:36 AM
@KMA

I too loved the picture frame

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Duels replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 2:41 PM
You can all get the frame appearance on the new Eclipse.
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BAND'OH! replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 5:19 PM

Duels:
You can all get the frame appearance on the new Eclipse.

Might not have quite the same effect though with a long black speaker going across the bottom half of the frame!!! lol

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Mikipedia replied on Tue, Aug 29 2017 8:31 PM
The speaker doesn't have to be black :p

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CB replied on Wed, Aug 30 2017 6:31 PM
A new pal arrived today

I was a little bit worried about the command panel, but it is working correctly, as the SD card reader, the antenna and all the functions Smile

The power cable (low voltage side) needs to be changes, and the battery too.
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BAND'OH! replied on Wed, Aug 30 2017 9:11 PM

The BS3 was one of my all time favourite B&O products! Enjoy it and good luck!!

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CB:

A new pal arrived today

I was a little bit worried about the command panel, but it is working correctly, as the SD card reader, the antenna and all the functions

The power cable (low voltage side) needs to be changes, and the battery too.

Big Smile
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Steph replied on Thu, Aug 31 2017 5:25 PM

Christophe,

where are you going to change the battery? Your dealer?

I must change mine but dealer ask me 150€!!

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CB replied on Thu, Aug 31 2017 8:15 PM
The characteristics o f the BS3 battery are : Ni-MH battery pack / 8 pcs. 1500mAh with built in NTC and PTC heat protection components.

I think the voltage is 9.6V (2 raws of 4x1.2V) but it's to be confirmed.

I don't want to change it yet (I don't use it unplugged), but I'm a of the "do it yourself" kind...

Today, I replaced the power cable plug and had a discussion with a technician at St Quentin Radio (near Gare du Nord - Paris). He said they have holders (coupleur in French) in which you can insert standard rechargeable batteries. This is a solution to check.

The problem (if it's a problem ?) is that the BS3 battery pack sports electronic component.

By the way, "changing" the battery is easy, what's difficult is to find the good one!
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Steph replied on Fri, Sep 1 2017 4:08 PM

Thanks for the info!

I'd like to change the battery so i could use it in other rooms easily.

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New living room with a temporary solution, until I make the Eclipse vs Avant decision which will be mounted over the fireplace. I still enjoy the Beovision 7, though. But, I think a Beolab 19 would look better sitting there...


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Duels replied on Fri, Sep 1 2017 5:27 PM
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New living room with a temporary solution, until I make the Eclipse vs Avant decision which will be mounted over the fireplace. I still enjoy the Beovision 7, though. But, I think a Beolab 19 would look better sitting there...

Lovely room and a great pic. Yes to a bL19 in that spot! Please post a pic when you have your new avant/eclipse. Personally think the eclipse screen may be a bit high to see over the fire place.
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Guy replied on Fri, Sep 1 2017 9:01 PM

I agree with Duels.  Better to move the fireplace up and have the TV at (seated) eye level!  The B&O floor stands are designed that way for a reason Smile

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Guy:

I agree with Duels. Better to move the fireplace up and have the TV at (seated) eye level! The B&O floor stands are designed that way for a reason

The eclipse will unfortunately sit too high above your fireplace but maybe i am biased because i always think any TV above the fireplace is not as good as being at eye level.

Grab the spec guide as it shows the sizes and mark it out with masking tape and see - maybe i am wrong

I can see why so many people love it though because it looks beautiful above the fireplace
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Guy replied on Sat, Sep 2 2017 9:06 AM

Aussie Michael:
Guy:

I agree with Duels. Better to move the fireplace up and have the TV at (seated) eye level! The B&O floor stands are designed that way for a reason

The eclipse will unfortunately sit too high above your fireplace but maybe i am biased because i always think any TV above the fireplace is not as good as being at eye level.

Grab the spec guide as it shows the sizes and mark it out with masking tape and see - maybe i am wrong

I can see why so many people love it though because it looks beautiful above the fireplace

Of course there are people who watch TV standing up, like I do when I have a bad back!  Wink

 

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Guy:

Aussie Michael:
Guy:

I agree with Duels. Better to move the fireplace up and have the TV at (seated) eye level! The B&O floor stands are designed that way for a reason

The eclipse will unfortunately sit too high above your fireplace but maybe i am biased because i always think any TV above the fireplace is not as good as being at eye level.

Grab the spec guide as it shows the sizes and mark it out with masking tape and see - maybe i am wrong

I can see why so many people love it though because it looks beautiful above the fireplace

Of course there are people who watch TV standing up, like I do when I have a bad back!  Wink

 

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Guy replied on Sat, Sep 2 2017 6:30 PM

Simonbeo:

To give your backarest in Bucharest Guy?

Big SmileBig SmileBig Smile

 

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Lets have a Party !!!
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20 years ago I found this tangerine coloured stone (quartz) on Ngong Hills. Today I found this tangerine coloured puck in my B&O shop at a very good price.

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Jeff replied on Tue, Sep 5 2017 1:36 AM

Interesting, on my monitor it looks the same color as the Martian landscape.

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Earle replied on Tue, Sep 5 2017 4:26 PM

From my weekend getaway. 

I never leave home without it... I also make sure I have my P2 with me.

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