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BV14 and Beovision Horizon - any feedback?

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Guy
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Guy posted on Sat, Oct 8 2016 4:30 PM

Considering that both the BV14 and Beovision Horizon have been out for several weeks there's been very little feedback on this forum!  Does anyone have either and is in a position report how they have got on?  Or is everyone hanging on for the anticipated new TVs next summer?

I am in the market for a new B&O TV and would like to purchase this side of Xmas.  I have been very disappointed with 'android' in the past (albeit with a tablet), hence I am particularly interested in the new android interface and whether the SW runs well?

Anyone?

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Answered (Verified) BartS replied on Thu, Oct 27 2016 1:00 PM
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I have just been informed that there indeed is a bug in the audio-part of the software and that this will be rewritten. As the connection with the Beoremote One BT concerns; there should not be a connection issue. B&O thinks the problem should be within the TV and that the TV should be shut off from power for a time (+ half an hour). Afterwards the remote should not have connection issues anymore.

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I have been using the BV 40 since launch and I do have many software glitches which none of the updates have solved yet.

I am also waiting for update to connect to my wireless speakers eg beosound 1. The TV stops at times without any reason, the TV guide crashed all the time. Sometimes you switch it on and the remote is bklocked after which you have to unplug and plug it again. I can go on and on ...

Dealer says updates are coming and it will take time. Is okay for me but my wife hates it.

Worst is that netflix app does not work on the beovision. 

My dealer told me that B&O recommends to use apple tv. Some argue between B&O and Netflix.

Unbelieveable. I have a subscription with Netflix, I should be able to use it.

The TV itself looks very very nice but is too buggy if you ask me.

I give it another month or so, if the Android glitches are not solved soon I will return it.

good luck

 

 

 

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Answered (Verified) BartS replied on Sun, Mar 12 2017 4:19 PM
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As said before: at this stage you have to contact your dealer. He passes your serial number through to B&O and subsequently the update will be transferred to your Beovision. I guess it wil take a few weeks before the update is automatically transferred to all the NG Beovisions.

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Answered (Verified) TEL replied on Tue, Mar 14 2017 8:00 PM
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Many thanks Sandyb - I'll probably go ahead with Avant NG 55 later this week

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It was (on the forum) posted that a (major) software update was due this week - for bug fixing and new functions (e.g. the multiroom support).

Anyone?

Was this sw rolled out?

MM

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Millemissen:

It was (on the forum) posted that a (major) software update was due this week - for bug fixing and new functions (e.g. the multiroom support).

Anyone?

Was this sw rolled out?

MM

No software update on my BV14 yet (just checked)

Current version is buggy... Need to enter my pincode couple of time a week, sometimes a number of times a day, the Android part crashed regulary "services cuz stopped responding", sometimes I get the Android logo plastered al over the screen when the TV is starting and I have the feelings that some sound settings are "on" onscreen, but have no effect (BL11 not working in a sound only (radio/itunes) situation.

This all sounds bad (it fact.. it is...) BUT BUT...

The bluetooth remote works as charm, the interface of the TV is very responsive, picture and sound wise: excellent!

So I hope that the software update irons out these bugs... and that it will bring back Netflix as a default app on the TV 

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Guy replied on Sun, Oct 9 2016 5:17 AM

Many thanks for the update kuyttendaele.

The Android problems sound slightly worrying, so fingers crossed that the SW update will resolve and get it running as a B&O TV should.

So should I wait a few more weeks or try to find one of the last BV11s?

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@Guy

That depends on your preferences.

If you don't mind the marriage with Google for your tv, you should probably wait and go for a14/Horizon.

There are some really good new things about those new tv's.

However, if Google/Android is not your 'thing', go for a BV11 (preowned?) - it is a mature tv.

MM

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Roy replied on Sun, Oct 9 2016 9:01 AM

Hi guys, 

I have had the Horizon for a few weeks now! I honestly love it. Android TV is not something I was very happy about, but having used it, it is not as terrible as I thought it would be. Pic quality is amazing. I had a BV8-40 and thought the sound of the Horizon was too much a downgrade so I bought a sub with the Horizon (BL14). 

On the software side of things I really hope the update of this or next week is gonna solve a lot of minor bugs. It is not like I can't use my TV , but the bugs make it's use annoying sometimes. Kuyttendaele, you can solve the PIN issue by disabling the PIN in the settings according to my dealer. 

This is my first 'new' BV and I'm very glad with my purchase. Now hunting down some speakers to add to the BV14 Sub. Thinking BL3 - BL14 - BL17. My room is not too big so I don't want speakers that are very present. Any suggestions? 

Regards, 
Roy 

BeoVision Horizon ● BeoLab 14 Subwoofer ● B&O Play A9 ● Beolit 15 ● B&O Play H8 ● B&O Play H5

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Next week they will role out the new software with many bugfixes!

Its amazing TV(BV14-55) and I am for sure it will be a big improvement and B&O working on to improve it more coming month.

One thing I am little worrid about is the picture quality. Many times the picture is very blueish in the dark parts. This was perfect on my BV11-55. Hope this been solved to next week update!!?

BeoVision 14-55 oak...BeoLab 8002 as FRONT....BeoLab 4000 as REAR....BL19 SUB copper 90's edt....BV5 2xHDMI....BV7-32 MK3....BC6-26....Beosound 9000....BeoRemote One BT....Beo6....Beo4....Beo4 Cinema....BeoLink 7000....Serene....H8....H6 90´s Rose Gold edt....Form 1....U70...A2 Black Copper Special Edt

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mr_anders_son:
Next week they will role out the new software with many bugfixes!

 

 

Its amazing TV(BV14-55) and I am for sure it will be a big improvement and B&O working on to improve it more coming month.

 

 

One thing I am little worried about is the picture quality. Many times the picture is very blueish in the dark parts. This was perfect on my BV11-55. Hope this been solved to next week update!!?

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BeoVision 14-55 oak...BeoLab 8002 as FRONT....BeoLab 4000 as REAR....BL19 SUB copper 90's edt....BV5 2xHDMI....BV7-32 MK3....BC6-26....Beosound 9000....BeoRemote One BT....Beo6....Beo4....Beo4 Cinema....BeoLink 7000....Serene....H8....H6 90´s Rose Gold edt....Form 1....U70...A2 Black Copper Special Edt

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Duels replied on Sun, Oct 9 2016 11:00 AM
Roy:

Hi guys,

Now hunting down some speakers to add to the BV14 Sub. Thinking BL3 - BL14 - BL17. My room is not too big so I don't want speakers that are very present. Any suggestions?

Regards, Roy

BeoVision Horizon ● BeoLab 14 Subwoofer ● B&O Play A9 ● Beolit 15 ● B&O Play H8 ● B&O Play H5

If you have the BL14 sub what about the BL14 satellites?
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Roy:

Kuyttendaele, you can solve the PIN issue by disabling the PIN in the settings according to my dealer. 

I know.. that's what my dealer told me too.. But.. what's the use of a pincode it it's disabled? If there's a pincode then I want to have it enabled; end of story... and it should work as all previous pincodes in B&O products.. not at random.

Karel.

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I've had a BV14-55 for a few weeks now ( a month i think).

Quick note re software and updates - yes the OS has been a bit buggy. First time i;ve bought a first release, so been a bit annoying - similar issues to those mentioned above, all of which have been fed back to B&O. So, yes PIN code issues (I've turned mine off), occasional unresponsiveness of the OS / menu system, though by far the biggest issue i have had is the sound cutting out, remedied by powering on and then off, which i regard as pretty unacceptable really, but assured it will be fixed in the upcoming (week 41 update as its called). The update next week will not bring multi-room, that arrives late November, and thats not guaranteed, its more to clean up the operation of the current functionality, so will be welcome in that sense.

In general though the OS is clean enough, and still retains the simplicity of what you would expect from B&O, albeit with a bit of Android nonsense thrown in. Its not the mess i thought it would be at all, playing with settings is very straight-forward, and i don't use any of the Android TV apps, but use external boxes. The Android TV apps look terrible to me - some look bad beyond belief, example being the TuneIn Radio app, which looks like something with 10 minutes of coding experience wrote. Spotify is better, but still poor compared to the Fire TV version. YouTube is fine, but again not as slick as the Apple Tv or Fire TV versions, but useable. Android TV is still young, so may get better, but i wouldn't hold my breath. ** i would add that Googlecasting to the BV14 is a very nice feature....

I'll address the sound first - this all depends on your individual use case of course, but i use mine in my bedroom, which measures about 6m*5m. The sound is pretty good i think for my bedroom, its certainly the best i;ve heard on a standalone TV, and at times i;ve been impressed by the range and separation it can produce. Not sure i will need to add the nearby A9 into the mix, once the multi room becomes enabled.....occasionally i guess, but not often. I like volume a bit louder than most people i know, but i've rarely if ever gone past half way on the volume scale (generally its on between 45-50  vs max 90).  If i had the BV14 in my lounge, personally i would be adding speakers, but i like a big room filling sound.

As for picture quality, i'm an avowed plasma man (its just not the same all round performer that my BV12-65 is), and as my first LCD/LED i've had to tweak a couple of settings to get rid of the aspects of LCD/LED i dislike.  Mainly the judder cancellation, so the horrible soap opera effects are minimised. Generally its a very good picture, Sky Sports HD looks great, yes its not as rich colour palette wise as my 12-65 to my eyes, but its good. Dont watch much SD coverage so can't judge its ability too much. 

As for non-Sky sources - much the same really, Netflix HD and 4K look very good - no one should have any real complaints here. Not all of the 4K content looks the same - Netflix have some nature-type 4k shorts that look really superb, though at the same time watching a UDH show on Amazon Prime didnt look much of a step up, and occasionally a few of the darker scenes looked wrong - whether it was the content or the BV14 i didn't know. Generally not had problems of this nature though.

All in all, i wouldnt go for a BV11 - the BV14 looked better to me on the same HD content when i spent some time in the showroom.

Anyway, pretty happy, short term bugs notwithstanding. Does the job i want it to, looks fantastic, and the sound is obviously better than other TVs. Looking at the LG E6/G6 (i.e. with HDR), does make me salivate for what HDR can do on an OLED, they're just amazing, but no hurry there. All the conversations i have had with B&O suggest the B&O /LG screen is far from certain for 2017, as questions remain over the longevity of OLED screens....

Anyway, apologies for the length of post....

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Guy replied on Sun, Oct 9 2016 9:00 PM

Many thanks for such an extensive report Sandy - certainly food for thought and an interesting comparison with your other TV.  It'll be very interesting to see if the SW update resolves all the teething problems - I really hope so.  I also presume that the Horizon is suffering with the same issues.

I am not too fussed about the clunkiness of the Android TV platform and its Apps (I too will use mostly external boxes: ATv4, PS4 etc) but I would like it to run smoothly and without the PIN code problems and sound issues mentioned.

Looking forward to an update in a week's time!

EDIT: Forgot to ask - is the PUC control OK? Smooth and fast, with enough functions?

 

 

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No problem - the teething problems will be sorted i have little doubt, i wouldnt overplay them, just a tad annoying for a 6k tv unit. The sound issues are relatively rare, so hasn't got in the way too much. Wishing the multi-room wasn't so delayed, as i can't fully connect to my matrix and have full multi room, but such is life......

As for my picture quality comments, i try to be objective, and stand by my view that (a) the 14 > 11 and (b) the BV14 is very good, but (c) the BL12-65 is by some distance a better picture to me. Haven't yet tried Blu-Ray on the BV14, as i can't connect the BV14 to my matrix.

And despite my comments about the amazing PQ of the LG E6 i was in Selfridges the other day, out of all the hundred+ TVs that were on display, nothing compared to the BV14 style, design and presence wise......for the record, if my bedroom space had allowed, would have got a second 12-65 + pair of BL18s or 3s......

Meanwhile very much looking forward to hearing the BeoSound 2, could be perfect for my home office.....

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Sibbi replied on Sun, Oct 9 2016 10:10 PM

I have the Horizon. Really like how it looks on the wall. It has some softwarebugs as mentioned but its a nice TV. Dealer said that multiroom will be added next month.  Picture quality very good. A very nice overall package.

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Just curios, does the new BT Beoone remote control a PS4?

Beovision 11-55, BeoPlay V1 40, Beosound 9000, Beolab 8000's and 3 Beocom 5's... Smile

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