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Connecting BV 7-32 to BM 7000 with Masterlink 1614. No sound.

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Lennart Hildeman
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Lennart Hildeman posted on Fri, Nov 10 2017 4:52 PM

Thanks to RaMaBo, mainly, I got the sound from the radio and tape recorder, briefly, in from my Pentas, but when I used my Beo4 to switch to the BV 7, so as to test the integrity of the setup, I could not get a sound out of the speakers.

Listening through the headphones, everything works fine; the system responds as it used to, so could there be something wrong with the masterlink? It worked once, after all. This was after I had restarted the system according to instructions from RaMaBo: uunplugged everything; plugged in the BV 7, waited a minute; plugged in the rest of the system, except for the masterlink; waited 30 sec, and plugged in the masterlink.

There is one glitch still; the Beogram 7000 does not seem to respond to the remote, which it did before, but has to be started manually. When the pickup touches the record, the Beogcord 6500 shuts up, just like it should, so that is OK.

Any ideas are welcome.

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Answered (Verified) RaMaBo replied on Fri, Nov 10 2017 6:15 PM
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Hi,

 

did you change the A.OPT and V.OPT settings when connecting the pentas to the BM7000?

To verify select a radio station, ie station '1'. Now press '2' on the remote it should switch to the radio station stored in location '2'. If it tries to select '22' both masters (audio _and_ video) receive the IR command and the BM7000 tries to select the stored station on '22'. It receives the '2' with it's own IR receiver _and _ gets the same number from the videomaster via masterlink!

Your settings should be A.OPT=2 and V.OPT=0. Both have to be programmed all components are in standby!

 

Ralph-Marcus

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The system without speakers connected must be in option 0 - the other in option 2.

First connect the A and V systems to power and then the converter.

MM

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Answered (Verified) RaMaBo replied on Sun, Nov 12 2017 4:55 PM
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Hmm mysterious things happen Confused

 

First select an audio source, i guess you can use every source smooth (and hear it through the pentas).

Now select a video source (TV, SAT/DTV, VTAPE/V.MEM, DVD). Does the _display_ of the BM switch from your last selected Audio Source to 'AUX' (or TV) ??

If the display changes it should be in A.OPT2, if not it's still in A.OPT1.

The BV accepted the V.OPT0 command and waits for commands from the masterlink connection which it should get from the masterlink converter which gets it via the AUX-Link connection.

Is your AUX-Link cable a seven pin one or just a 5 pin???

 

Ralph-Marcus

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This may be a red herring, but in addition to the audio-aux link connection, does the OP also need a power link connection between the BM7000 and the 1611 converter? I've got my BV7-32 connected to my BM7000 in the same way, although my option settings are different as the BV and BM are in different rooms with their own speaker systems attached.

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Answered (Verified) Guy replied on Sun, Nov 12 2017 6:55 PM
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Luke Spadavecchia :

This may be a red herring, but in addition to the audio-aux link connection, does the OP also need a power link connection between the BM7000 and the 1611 converter?

PL connection to 1611/14 is only needed in the situation with A.Opt 0 and VOpt 2 - with speakers connected to the TV only.  (This would enable (for example) manual (front panel) volume control of the BM to be reflected in the output from the TV's speakers.)

 

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Answered (Verified) RaMaBo replied on Sun, Nov 12 2017 7:46 PM
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Lennart Hildeman:

Yes, I get the radio and the BC6500 and the Beogram 7000 with my Beolink 1000, as always. I am not sure what you mean by "smooth", but never mind; the Beo4 display switches to TV and dvd and dvd2 (the VX7000, under a list command) and VMEM, but nothing happens on the screen of the BV7. The sources through the BM7000 shut down, though (the pickup lifts, etc).

The AUX-link cable has seven pins.

 

Refering to this answer:

You can use the Beolink1000 _or_ the Beo4 for this test: It just makes things easier. Use it for audio _and_ Video to make testing easier and transparent.

 

Pentas to the BM7000. Set your system to A.OPT2 and V.OPT0, everything disconnected from the mains, now BM to the mains, the TV to the mains. Wait a minute and then the beolink converter 1614 to the mains. again wait a minute.

1: when you listen to the radio, the Pentas show 'RADIO xx'. correct?

2: when you listen to the radio, the BM7000 lights 'RADIO'. correct?

3: when you press TV, the BM7000 lights what?

4: when you press TV, the Pentas show what?

5:If the Pentas show TV, the BV7 stays off (only Standby light is lit) correct?

6:If the Pentas show TV, the BV7  Standby light change?

 

I suspect a defective masterlink cable or Beolink converter.

 

Lukes setting have to be A.OPT 2 and V.OPT2

Ralph-Marcus

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Answered (Verified) Stefan E replied on Sun, Nov 12 2017 11:27 PM
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Hi Lennart, 

I got a similar issue earlier when I had my pentad contacted to a beomaster that was connected to a beovision via ML. The Penta´s did not powered up and nothing displayed.

The thing that caused this was the setting under the panel on the penta speaker itself, I needed to change the source on the switch there (Audio or Video) and then they started to work as normal.

Give it a try to see if it could be same issue for you.


Regards
Stefan 

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Yes the front panel that pops out when it´s pressed....Smile

 

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Yes the front panel that pops out when it´s pressed....Smile

 

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Any update if the switch solved the problem?

Regards

Stefan

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Answered (Verified) RaMaBo replied on Fri, Nov 10 2017 6:15 PM
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Hi,

 

did you change the A.OPT and V.OPT settings when connecting the pentas to the BM7000?

To verify select a radio station, ie station '1'. Now press '2' on the remote it should switch to the radio station stored in location '2'. If it tries to select '22' both masters (audio _and_ video) receive the IR command and the BM7000 tries to select the stored station on '22'. It receives the '2' with it's own IR receiver _and _ gets the same number from the videomaster via masterlink!

Your settings should be A.OPT=2 and V.OPT=0. Both have to be programmed all components are in standby!

 

Ralph-Marcus

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Hello again!

Well, I changed the options to A2 and V0 with the system in standby and the cables connected to the BM7000, but then the television did not react at all to my promptings. What I did not do was disconnect from the mains after that, and then reconnect. Tomorrow I will try again.

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The system without speakers connected must be in option 0 - the other in option 2.

First connect the A and V systems to power and then the converter.

MM

There is a tv - and there is a BV.

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Yes, but the only thiing that happened when I did this in reverse, is that the BV7 no longer responds. At all! The TV on the Beo4, which worked before, now elicits no response whatsoever from the BV7, nor does the VMEM, the DVD, or the LIST-button DVD2, which I assigned to the VX7000. This is so INCREDIBLY FRUSTRATING! Is there any way I can check whether the settings are actually VOPT0 and AOPT2, respectively? The BV7, anyway, is OPT0.

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Answered (Verified) RaMaBo replied on Sun, Nov 12 2017 4:55 PM
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Hmm mysterious things happen Confused

 

First select an audio source, i guess you can use every source smooth (and hear it through the pentas).

Now select a video source (TV, SAT/DTV, VTAPE/V.MEM, DVD). Does the _display_ of the BM switch from your last selected Audio Source to 'AUX' (or TV) ??

If the display changes it should be in A.OPT2, if not it's still in A.OPT1.

The BV accepted the V.OPT0 command and waits for commands from the masterlink connection which it should get from the masterlink converter which gets it via the AUX-Link connection.

Is your AUX-Link cable a seven pin one or just a 5 pin???

 

Ralph-Marcus

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This may be a red herring, but in addition to the audio-aux link connection, does the OP also need a power link connection between the BM7000 and the 1611 converter? I've got my BV7-32 connected to my BM7000 in the same way, although my option settings are different as the BV and BM are in different rooms with their own speaker systems attached.

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Answered (Verified) Guy replied on Sun, Nov 12 2017 6:55 PM
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Luke Spadavecchia :

This may be a red herring, but in addition to the audio-aux link connection, does the OP also need a power link connection between the BM7000 and the 1611 converter?

PL connection to 1611/14 is only needed in the situation with A.Opt 0 and VOpt 2 - with speakers connected to the TV only.  (This would enable (for example) manual (front panel) volume control of the BM to be reflected in the output from the TV's speakers.)

 

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Yes, I get the radio and the BC6500 and the Beogram 7000 with my Beolink 1000, as always. I am not sure what you mean by "smooth", but never mind; the Beo4 display switches to TV and dvd and dvd2 (the VX7000, under a list command) and VMEM, but nothing happens on the screen of the BV7. The sources through the BM7000 shut down, though (the pickup lifts, etc).

The AUX-link cable has seven pins.

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Well, I have the speakers connected to the BM7000, and a seven pin cable. I have tried both ways, and the speakers only respond to the source that they are directly connected to, If I make the VOPT 0, it just means that the BV doesn't respond. When I make the VOPT 2, it just means that I can turn on the BM7000 (the displys on the front of that and on the Beocord 6500 react, but the Pentas stay red and quiet, like wallflowers.

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So, can I ask you: have you got VOPT 0 and AOPT 2, then?

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Answered (Verified) RaMaBo replied on Sun, Nov 12 2017 7:46 PM
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Lennart Hildeman:

Yes, I get the radio and the BC6500 and the Beogram 7000 with my Beolink 1000, as always. I am not sure what you mean by "smooth", but never mind; the Beo4 display switches to TV and dvd and dvd2 (the VX7000, under a list command) and VMEM, but nothing happens on the screen of the BV7. The sources through the BM7000 shut down, though (the pickup lifts, etc).

The AUX-link cable has seven pins.

 

Refering to this answer:

You can use the Beolink1000 _or_ the Beo4 for this test: It just makes things easier. Use it for audio _and_ Video to make testing easier and transparent.

 

Pentas to the BM7000. Set your system to A.OPT2 and V.OPT0, everything disconnected from the mains, now BM to the mains, the TV to the mains. Wait a minute and then the beolink converter 1614 to the mains. again wait a minute.

1: when you listen to the radio, the Pentas show 'RADIO xx'. correct?

2: when you listen to the radio, the BM7000 lights 'RADIO'. correct?

3: when you press TV, the BM7000 lights what?

4: when you press TV, the Pentas show what?

5:If the Pentas show TV, the BV7 stays off (only Standby light is lit) correct?

6:If the Pentas show TV, the BV7  Standby light change?

 

I suspect a defective masterlink cable or Beolink converter.

 

Lukes setting have to be A.OPT 2 and V.OPT2

Ralph-Marcus

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1. The Pentas show nothing. Blank panels.

2. Yes

3. AUX

4. Nichts, nada, rien.

5. The Pentas show niente, nothing, blank. The BV7 stays in standby.

6. See above.

 

Would an eight pin cable make any difference in the PL?

What is the AUDI AUX Link on the Beolink converter for?

Maybe I should try Luke's settings?

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Answered (Verified) Stefan E replied on Sun, Nov 12 2017 11:27 PM
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Hi Lennart, 

I got a similar issue earlier when I had my pentad contacted to a beomaster that was connected to a beovision via ML. The Penta´s did not powered up and nothing displayed.

The thing that caused this was the setting under the panel on the penta speaker itself, I needed to change the source on the switch there (Audio or Video) and then they started to work as normal.

Give it a try to see if it could be same issue for you.


Regards
Stefan 

BV7-40 MKIII, BC6-26, BC6-23, BV4-50/BS2, BS5, BS9000, BL3500, MLGW, BLGW, PlayMaker, - BS6500, BS4500, LX6000, VX7000, MX5500, VX5000 - Beo6, Beo5, BeoTimex2, Linctonic

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RaMaBo replied on Mon, Nov 13 2017 3:28 PM

Lennart Hildeman:

1. The Pentas show nothing. Blank panels.  -> See Stefans answer

2. Yes  ->  ok

3. AUX  -> ok

4. Nichts, nada, rien.  -> See Stefans answer

5. The Pentas show niente, nothing, blank. The BV7 stays in standby.  ->  as i said before: i suspect the 1614 or the masterlink cable.

6. See above.  ->  as i said before: i suspect the 1614 or the masterlink cable.

 

Would an eight pin cable make any difference in the PL?-> only if the  PL cable you use now is the thin PL cable, which doen't transport the data for the diplay.

 

What is the AUDI AUX Link on the Beolink converter for?   ->  It's for transfering the Audio signals in and out   _and_   the data to / from the masterlink converter. absolutely necessary!

 

Maybe I should try Luke's settings?   -> these settings are only necessary if both parts of the whole system are in different rooms. Every device (BM _and_ BV) receives audio _and_ video commands which are transferred to the other system too.

 

Do you have another 1614 or 1611 Beolink Converter and / or masterlink cable? Try exchange them one after another, to see which component makes the problem.

 

Ralph-Marcus

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