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BM5 HDD to SSD the easy way

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Wild Ruedi
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Wild Ruedi Posted: Sun, Feb 5 2017 10:39 PM

Hello

My BS5 suffered from staggering replay from the memory.

I have followed the various attempts to change the HDD to SSD. I bought SSD crucial MX 300 1 TB.- 1050GB to be precise. Also: sharkoon  Quickport XT duo clone.

Workaround: Connect the cloner to PC and plug new SSD in any slot. Formate SSD Fat32. Unplug cloner from PC. Plug original HDD in clonerslot1 new SSD slot2. Start cloner and wait, watch the LED for progress. It takes about 3 hrs.

Put back SSD in BS5, plug everthing together, plug in mains, wait until System is ready and enjoy the quick response at the wheel and the fast browsing through albums. The memory plays smooth.

No more worries about mechanical failure!

Best regards

Ruedi

 

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Weebyx replied on Mon, Feb 6 2017 6:51 AM

Wild Ruedi:

Hello

My BS5 suffered from staggering replay from the memory.

I have followed the various attempts to change the HDD to SSD. I bought SSD crucial MX 300 1 TB.- 1050GB to be precise. Also: sharkoon  Quickport XT duo clone.

Workaround: Connect the cloner to PC and plug new SSD in any slot. Formate SSD Fat32. Unplug cloner from PC. Plug original HDD in clonerslot1 new SSD slot2. Start cloner and wait, watch the LED for progress. It takes about 3 hrs.

Put back SSD in BS5, plug everthing together, plug in mains, wait until System is ready and enjoy the quick response at the wheel and the fast browsing through albums. The memory plays smooth.

No more worries about mechanical failure!

Best regards

Ruedi

Was your original HDD 500gb or 1TB ?

And still no problem with SW updates ?

/Weebyx

 

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beolion replied on Mon, Feb 6 2017 1:00 PM
Thanks for the tip. That is a quite nice and straight forward approach.

I hope that the MX300 will work flawlessly for you, someone mentioned that only the MX100 would be supported by the BM5.

Please let us know how it goes, I am also having a 1TB and the response is sometimes slow on mine as well.
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It was 1TB and I have Spotify - all works perfect. I have not tried the update function since it says, that my cloned software is updated.

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It was 1TB and I have Spotify - all works perfect. I have not tried the update function since it says, that my cloned software is updated.

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Wild Ruedi:

It was 1TB and I have Spotify - all works perfect. I have not tried the update function since it says, that my cloned software is updated.

I have tried the update - and it works! First I made a reboot from recovery witch sets the sofware to delivery status: update lost, settings lost, music files 

remain untouched. It takes a while. Then settings - update and the download starts as ever. In short time the update is done and Spotify + A Aux

is back. So far I did not use the service mode nor the USB service tool. The easy way.

regards Ruedi

 

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beolion replied on Sat, Feb 11 2017 9:32 PM
Thanks for your update.
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Hi

How is your replacement drive?

Hope all works well. Can you please confirm that your drive  model number is Crucial SSD MX300 1050GB 2,5" (CT1050MX300SSD1)

Thanks

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Correct!

and it works perfect!

regards Ruedi

 

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beolion replied on Mon, Dec 11 2017 8:19 AM

Hi Ruedi

Been almost a year now, are things still going well for you?

Regards,

Leo

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Hi Leo

It is in daily use and working perfect. The average temperature on the mainboard is as low as 32°C and noiseless.

Hurry up! the early type of SSD are running out.

Regards,

Ruedi

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beolion replied on Thu, Jan 4 2018 12:04 AM

Hi Ruedi

Thanks for your reply, my system is now running with the MX300 1TB disk, and your approach worked fine.

For now at least Smile

I had a problem to format the drive to FAT32 in Windows 10, as new Windows 10 does not support FAT32 format options anymore. I tried to use the cmd prompt to format using FS:FAT32 but it failed after 14 hours......well, after using my Mac, I was able fo format the drive to FAT32 in 5 Minutes. Should have known that up front, ha ha.

Cloning the drive took about 4 hours.

During the process I was also "reminded" to dust off the inner BM5 with m airduster, hereby done Yes - thumbs up

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beolion replied on Thu, Jan 4 2018 8:15 AM

System has been running for 7 hours continuously now, listening to Radio and CD (N.MUSIC) and a bit A.AUX, everything is still running fine.

And, wow, what a difference the SSD makes when browsing though my albums/songs, no delay or latency when scrolling over albums, I have around 22,000 songs, and there were always delays when scrolling/browsing. Even browsing through the PICTURES I have on BM5 vi my AppleTV on the Avant (using DNLA) is much more smooth.

Should have done this much earlier...... thanks for your help Ruedi.

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TWG replied on Thu, Jan 4 2018 10:23 AM

Will this work with the original 500GB Beomaster 5, too if I install the 1TB SSD?

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beolion replied on Thu, Jan 4 2018 11:12 AM
You should just do a cloning to a 500 GB SSD which is quite a bit cheaper.

I don’t know what happens if you clone from 500 to 1TB with the additional space.
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beolion replied on Sun, Jan 7 2018 3:14 AM

After installing the SSD I have now enabled Power Save mode and disabled Music Server (DNLA) as the start-up time now is very acceptable compared to earlier. No need to have the harddrive and system running 24x7 anymore. 

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Fritz replied on Sun, Jan 7 2018 8:14 AM

For all reading about this issue.

If having a 500 GB HDD just clone it to a 500 GB HHD or larger. IT must have the esact same size or larger. Same goes for the 1 TB. As all data is copied direct one to one, all will work. If going from 500 GB to 1 TB one has to use the special software tools and follow the procedure decribed in the service manual. Further if the system seem slow call the service menu in BM5 connect mouse and keyboard to USB. The system runs on Windows XP SP 2, call the harddrive and do a disk clean up in windows XP to remove temporary files and other leftovers. Then do a defragmentation. See the servicemanual how to enter the service mode. B&O has a service letter decribing that SSD harddrives is suatable in BM 5.

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elbrus replied on Sun, Jan 14 2018 2:54 PM

Hello,

Why using Fat32 and not NTFS?

Will your solution works wit NTFS?

 

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Beofrank replied on Sun, Jan 14 2018 4:38 PM

Smile

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Beofrank replied on Sun, Jan 14 2018 4:39 PM

Does anyone have the service letter?

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TWG replied on Sun, Jan 14 2018 7:01 PM

Thank you for your hints.

Maybe a dumb question, but what happens when I clone a 500GB HDD to a 1TB SSD? Will I lose the remaining 500GB because of an exact 1:1 cloning?

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Aleksei replied on Wed, Jan 17 2018 10:35 PM

Here's my story with the answer on your question: how the 1 TB SSD looks like after cloning from 500GB, that the filesystem is NTFS etc.

Text is in Russian, but the pictures are self-explaining. Enjoy!

https://beointegration.wordpress.com/

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Jon replied on Thu, Jan 18 2018 10:19 AM

TWG:

Thank you for your hints.

Maybe a dumb question, but what happens when I clone a 500GB HDD to a 1TB SSD? Will I lose the remaining 500GB because of an exact 1:1 cloning?

Typically with drive clones, when you use a larger destination disk the cloning software will just create a partition on the drive that's the exact same size as the old one. I can't remember if Windows XP (which it looks like the BM5 runs on) supports re-sizing partitions (and even then, I'm not sure if you can re-size FAT32 partitions), but if it does you can try using Windows' Disk Management (if you can get to it) and then re-size the partition from there. Essentially, the storage itself isn't gone forever - you just won't be able to access it unless you find a way to create a partition that takes full use of the disk's capacity.

Make sure you don't wipe the old disk in case re-sizing doesn't work and you need to start from scratch again - don't want to lose your music etc!

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Fritz replied on Sat, Jan 20 2018 8:18 PM

The HDD on BM5 is using NTFS.

The service letter describes in short what i wrote above. So as i wrote take the original B&O HDD and clone it to a SSD as described above.

 

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