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mbolo01 replied on Wed, Dec 13 2017 12:45 PM
Lobster:

Do you have this also?

I have not tested this case yet. I have just added unexisting tiles and only one to replace a Gracenote found, at the early stages of 2.2

I will do the following:

Try to change existing self-managed tiles for different ones

Try to change existing Gracenote tiles with ones I manage (I know this works in rebuild mode)

In two Rescan contexts:

Without any change on the DLNA side (except default playlists such recently played, added)

With change of the content for one or two artists in scope

I will also ask B&O for the logic

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Lobster replied on Wed, Dec 13 2017 7:37 PM

Thanks, I will try this weekend these options and see what will happen. And I will inform you and B&O what my experience are with the expert mode.

 

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Maniax replied on Thu, Dec 14 2017 2:46 AM

How do you guys join the Moment beta program?

 

Im sick of listening to mp3 quality songs on my beolab 5 when my Beosound 2 is streaming flac.

the public version 2.2 seems like ite never coming out.

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mbolo01 replied on Thu, Dec 14 2017 9:39 PM

Hiort:
I’m on the beta track

Hi Hiort - Can you move forward/backward in a Deezer track witout issues?

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Maniax replied on Fri, Dec 15 2017 3:20 AM

Maniax:

How do you guys join the Moment beta program?

 

Im sick of listening to mp3 quality songs on my beolab 5 when my Beosound 2 is streaming flac.

the public version 2.2 seems like ite never coming out.

Kyle emailed me: write to beta@bang-olufsen.dk if you are interested in joining the beta programme.

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Maniax replied on Fri, Dec 15 2017 3:20 AM

Maniax:

How do you guys join the Moment beta program?

 

Im sick of listening to mp3 quality songs on my beolab 5 when my Beosound 2 is streaming flac.

the public version 2.2 seems like ite never coming out.

Kyle emailed me: write to beta@bang-olufsen.dk if you are interested in joining the beta programme.

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Weebyx replied on Fri, Dec 15 2017 4:47 AM

mbolo01:

Hiort:
I’m on the beta track

Hi Hiort - Can you move forward/backward in a Deezer track witout issues?

There are problems with in particular going back to 0 seconds in songs. Both my Moment and A6 are having this issue.

 

/Jacob

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alex_112 replied on Sun, Dec 17 2017 12:01 PM

Since the last update (Fri 15) I've experienced dropped connection from soundboard where I've had to reboot it in order to get control again, anyone else experienced the same?

BTW, I love deezer Hifi!

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Lobster replied on Sun, Dec 17 2017 5:06 PM

Hi mbolo01,

 

I've still problems to get the artist tiles in the expertmode to work. It worked once after a system reset, but when I put more new tiles in the BEOARTISTS map and after the rescanning of the system all of the "homemade" artist tiles are disappeared and never came back. Also with a total reset of the system. When it worked it was with the softwareversion before the softwareupdate from last friday.

 

I send B&O also a message about it, but I was curious if it still works with you're system. And maybe you have any clue...?? 😉

 

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Beroli replied on Sun, Dec 17 2017 6:35 PM
Lobster:

Hi mbolo01,

I've still problems to get the artist tiles in the expertmode to work. It worked once after a system reset, but when I put more new tiles in the BEOARTISTS map and after the rescanning of the system all of the "homemade" artist tiles are disappeared and never came back. Also with a total reset of the system. When it worked it was with the softwareversion before the softwareupdate from last friday.

I send B&O also a message about it, but I was curious if it still works with you're system. And maybe you have any clue...?? 😉

Hi Lobster,

This is a issue, I faced too, with the latest Beta. The self-made artist-tiles will reappear, if you do a DLNA-update in the expert tab.

I already informed B&O about this and other things I experienced with the new update. Please do the same and submit a log-file and write a eMail including some screenshots and if possible your BS-Moment-ID and the time, when you submitted the log. With the ID the support is able to find the issue faster and fix it.

With my setup, the previous beta was perfect, now it is a new approach, since some setups with different devices still had some minor issues. I am pretty sure and confident, they will fix it and the 2.2 will be out soon.

Cheers Beroli
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andy_js replied on Sun, Dec 17 2017 7:41 PM
This expert mode hardly seems like it’s worth the effort.
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Lobster replied on Sun, Dec 17 2017 7:46 PM

Hi Beroli,

 

Thanks for your reply.

 

I have tried many things to get my selfmade artist tiles back, but with several collection updates and the reconfigures from the DLNA menu the artist tiles still doesn't reappear. Even with the reconfigure and system reset from the Reset menu.

I have sent B&O already a e-mail about this. I hope they will fix this asap.

 

 

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mbolo01 replied on Sun, Dec 17 2017 8:14 PM

Lobster:
I have tried many things to get my selfmade artist tiles back

This is weird ....

I just tried the following:

To replace a managed artist image by another one
To replace a Gracenote artist image by a managed one
To add a missing artist image

It took only one Manual Refresh cycle to get all the above applied.

I don't know what to say as you did what had to be done as discussed previously.

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Beroli replied on Sun, Dec 17 2017 9:07 PM

andy_js:
This expert mode hardly seems like it’s worth the effort.

It worked perfect in the previous beta and believe me it looks great, if every tile is filled with the right artis image and there are no permanent scans, because it uses all the tags in your dlna-collection. I like it.

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mbolo01 replied on Sun, Dec 17 2017 9:18 PM

Beroli:
because it uses all the tags in your dlna-collection. I like it.

Hi Beroli - Talking about tags, how are your DLNA albums sorted when opening an artist tile? (pls remind me your current DLNA server)

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Beroli replied on Sun, Dec 17 2017 10:25 PM
mbolo01:

Hi Beroli - Talking about tags, how are your DLNA albums sorted when opening an artist tile? (pls remind me your current DLNA server)

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Hi mbolo01,

Currently testing Latest Beta on TwonkyServer (installed on a Mac mini). Albums are sorted mostly new to old, if year is within the Tags.

Cheers Beroli
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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Dec 18 2017 9:42 AM

Beroli:
Currently testing Latest Beta on TwonkyServer

I discovered that Twonky does not always expose the correct date set in the Tags.

With the new Twonky "By Date" UI view introduced in 8.5 version, I found several exceptions. Looking closer at some albums that obviously were not placed in the correct era, I could find that their release year was correct in iTunes, same in Metadatics (OSX Tag editor) but when using another DLNA controller that takes care of date exposed by the DLNA server, album release year is completely different, e.g. 2033 v.s. 1992 in iTunes.

Next, expecting the sorting performed by the Moment to be the same than the DLNA renderer app, assuming the Moment reads and leverage the year tag, I have differences and inconsistencies.

I opened a ticket with Twonky to start with and B&O is already aware about the sorting issue.

PS: Twonky 8.5 running on QNAP or OSX translates the date TAG value to another for the same albums.

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Beroli replied on Mon, Dec 18 2017 12:27 PM
Hi mbolo01,

thank you for your explanation and the hint regarding Twonky 8.5. Never checked the Date order before since for me it was most important to have thr stuff in the right folder. But having the albums sorted in a historical order is of course the cheery on top. Big Smile

Cheers
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Beobuddy replied on Sat, Dec 23 2017 11:17 AM

For all the betatesters out there:

Warning! With the latest software released on friday 22th, my Moment lost almost all it's functionality. You will not be able to manually enter the setup menu.

I don't know if I'm the only one, But after downgrading, my Moment works again. I've done this sequence twice (upgrading/downgrading etc) with the same result.

Unless confirmed by B&O otherwise, I would wait with upgrading your software.

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abyss replied on Sat, Dec 23 2017 12:12 PM

hmmm, didn't have any troubles with the update. Everything is working as before and i am able to enter the setup menu.

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MircoHH replied on Sat, Dec 23 2017 2:27 PM

Didnt have and Problems to. Everything works fine. 

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Beobuddy replied on Sat, Dec 23 2017 3:34 PM

Glad to notice.

Mine worked flawless under the previous 2.2 beta in combination with Deezer HiFi, the ultimate musicsystem for me.

Will see what happens next. I'm convinced that it will be sorted out.

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Hiort replied on Sat, Dec 23 2017 3:56 PM
No problems here. I’m on 2.2.18408

 

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MircoHH replied on Sat, Dec 23 2017 8:09 PM

I couldn't unterstand, why B&O discontinued the wonderful BS Moment. The device was a disaster the last 2 years, but after Lyle wrote the software complete new, it is one of the best devices for playing music, B&O ever made!

I am very sad, that I will see no new feature anymore.

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bs206 replied on Sat, Dec 23 2017 9:34 PM

I hope there's soon a final software version...

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Beobuddy replied on Wed, Dec 27 2017 1:24 PM

It has been confirmed today. My Moment has a hardware faillure.

So, the softwareupdate wasn't the culprit, but an unlucky coincidence.

 

Beobuddy:

For all the betatesters out there:

Warning! With the latest software released on friday 22th, my Moment lost almost all it's functionality. You will not be able to manually enter the setup menu.

I don't know if I'm the only one, But after downgrading, my Moment works again. I've done this sequence twice (upgrading/downgrading etc) with the same result.

Unless confirmed by B&O otherwise, I would wait with upgrading your software.

 

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kimhav replied on Mon, Jan 1 2018 2:23 PM

Can any other confirm whether the current beta works with Twonky Server v8.5 or not? Asking since I've currentl running with the latest beta being pushed out where they just added some additional log facilities and while upgrading the system to this level I'd also upgrade my Twonky Server installation the QNAP which it seems now that the Moment doesn't support.

Another issue that I currently also have with the current beta is that I can't get into the Settings/Configuration meny by removing the socket cover on the Moment Hub. Tried factory reset and setup the system again with both TuneIn and Deezer (HIFI) and the system seems (I can access Deezer and TuneIn) to work, beside the DLNA-issue and Setting/Configuration issue.

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mbolo01 replied on Mon, Jan 1 2018 2:48 PM
kimhav:

Can any other confirm whether the current beta works with Twonky Server v8.5 or not?

Yes it works

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kimhav replied on Mon, Jan 1 2018 3:00 PM

mbolo01:
Yes it works

Ok, thanks! I've tried to downgrade Twonky Server to version 8.4.1 to see if this would make any difference which it didn't, so back again to version 8.5. So for now I can only wait for B&O to get back to my based on the beta feedback I've provided.

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Igadiz replied on Mon, Jan 1 2018 6:14 PM

Hi how can I become a beta tester?

I have sent an Email to the address provided in this thread but so far, I have not received a response.

I subscribe to Deezer HIFI and would very much like to have that service enabled on my Beosound Moment.

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i4ict replied on Mon, Jan 8 2018 9:57 PM

Did they solve the problem with compilation albums being ignored by the Moodwheel yet? Only Various Artists (album artists) are shown. Not the performing artist. I've been complaining about this bug for almost 2 years, and still no solution. Also, when can we expect gapless playback? Or can we playback WAV files without a loud ticking noise at the end of each track?

Shame on you B&O! I'm really done with the brand after being a loyal customer for more than 30 years. Their products keep getting worse every year!

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MircoHH replied on Mon, Jan 8 2018 10:20 PM
i4ict:

Did they solve the problem with compilation albums being ignored by the Moodwheel yet?

No, it isn’t solved. I am in touch with B&O too, because most of my albums are compilations.
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StUrrock replied on Mon, Jan 8 2018 10:35 PM
Igadiz:

Hi how can I become a beta tester?

Some might say that once you buy a new B&O product these days you are automatically on the pre-beta program Big Smile
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StUrrock:
Some might say that once you buy a new B&O product these days you are automatically on the pre-beta program Big Smile

 

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mbolo01 replied on Tue, Jan 9 2018 9:45 AM
MircoHH:

No, it isn’t solved. I am in touch with B&O too, because most of my albums are compilations.

Can you explain me the issue? I have a lot of compilation albums too and I’m sure they are included in the MoodWheel process (I have 2.2 beta) and track artist are properly displayed in the Now Playing screen assuming they have been properly entered through the library management tool

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andy_js replied on Tue, Jan 9 2018 1:34 PM
StUrrock:

Some might say that once you buy a new B&O product these days you are automatically on the pre-beta program

Sounds right to me. I had the Moment fairly early on and it felt like it was alpha quality software.
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the moment could use this as its screen???

This device is a cross between a moment and a device Sony did a fair few years ago 

https://www.engadget.com/2018/01/08/lenovo-smart-display-hands-on/#gallery=819527&slide=7204473&index=7 

 

 

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Fansastic replied on Sat, Jan 13 2018 6:26 AM
Looks more like my white Beoplay A3 with iPad. Only imitated with the wooden back of the Moment.

Real pity to see that cheap mainstream companies are copying B&O and the latter cannot keep up anymore. Both A3 and Moment are real nice products and somehow after short period of time reached EOL already.

Sorry for the off topic. Any ideas when the official 2.2 upgrade will be send out?
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Beophile replied on Sat, Jan 13 2018 2:21 PM
I noticed that the Beosound Moment wasn’t included on the list of devices B&O announced that were getting Airplay 2.

See: https://www.bang-olufsen.com/~/mediaV3/Files/Press-releases/bang-olufsen/airplay-2/bang-olufsen-airplay-2.pdf

Do we think this is the case, or merely an accidental omission?

Also, I recall reading that at least some of the past beta versions of the Beosound Moment software included Spotify Connect. Does the current beta 2.2 version of the Beosound Moment software include Spotify Connect such that we can expect that feature to be included in the final 2.2 public release?

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mbolo01 replied on Sat, Jan 13 2018 3:35 PM
There is no Spotify nor Airplay in the Moment beta software, I don’t think it’s on their agenda.

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